Monday 25 February 2013

To preach grace or hyper-grace ?

Many preachers will say, "Of course, if we want to preach grace, we have to preach more grace, radical grace, or hyper-grace because grace is not a doctrine, grace is Jesus Christ. Hence, if we preach grace, we preach Jesus. If we preach Jesus, we can never be wrong.. " 
I will ask them, If grace is Jesus, what is radical grace or hyper-grace ? If preaching grace is preaching Jesus, what do you preach when you preach radical grace or hyper-grace ? Will you preach a radical Jesus or hyper-Jesus too ? However, did Jesus say that He is grace or grace is Him ? I have only known that grace came from Jesus, that grace is a gift of God and it is a gift of God from the following Bible verses:
  • Joh 1:17 KJV  For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
Those were the questions I would ask the radical grace or hyper grace preachers. They will say, "We did not insist that we must preach radical grace or a radical Jesus. We just want people to know the grace of God.."
I will then ask them, If this is your intention, why do you insist that we must preach radical grace ? Why can't we just preach grace or preach repentance ?
Once we start to ask more and more questions, we will know why they would only want to preach radical grace. They do not want to preach grace or repentance; they want to preach radical grace or a radical Jesus. When the people believe in a radical Jesus, they cannot believe in sound doctrine. When they cannot believe in sound doctrine, they would become radically confused in their radical understanding of their mind-changing philosophy, repentance, turning from sins, obedience, and God's commandments.

Do we need to teach grace or hyper-grace ? 
Dr Michael Brown could have seen the same problem from radical grace or hyper-grace teaching when he shared about his concern with the churches:
http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/38297-confronting-the-error-of-hyper-grace
http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/38394-hyper-grace-horror-stories




Although he did quite a comprehensive and reasonable analysis on the teaching of hyper-grace, he did not receive any positive comments from the radical grace or hyper-grace believers. It's because the radical grace people can never give up their belief in radical grace and go for just the grace of God. Unconsciously they could have settled in their mind that they could not be saved adequately or prospered enough under the grace of God. However, they have forgotten why Paul would say that the grace of God is sufficient for all his circumstances:
  • 2Co 12:5-11 KJV  Of such an one will I glory: yet of myself I will not glory, but in mine infirmities.  (6)  For though I would desire to glory, I shall not be a fool; for I will say the truth: but now I forbear, lest any man should think of me above that which he seeth me to be, or that he heareth of me.  (7)  And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.  (8)  For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me.  (9)  And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.  (10)  Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.  (11)  I am become a fool in glorying; ye have compelled me: for I ought to have been commended of you: for in nothing am I behind the very chiefest apostles, though I be nothing.

Can we receive grace without knowing or preaching how to receive grace ?
I will tell the grace preachers or radical grace preachers, You have been preaching about grace or radical grace, but have you ever tell the sinners how to receive grace?
Radical grace preachers will say, "Oh, I thought grace is free. It is given without us doing anything. All the sinners will receive grace and favours effortlessly if they believe in Jesus. So, why do you still ask people to do many things to receive grace ? All we need to do is just hear, think, confess, and believe in Jesus or Grace. We will just need to hear and believe only, and grace will just come automatically and effortlessly without us doing anything. Do you know the finished work of Jesus? If you must do, do nothing ! However, doing repentance was an old doctrine. Under the Old Testament until the time of John the Baptist, people were told to repent or do repentance. But under the New Covenant, things have changed. We have found a better covenant ie. the covenant of grace. We just think of grace, preach grace, confess grace, and believe grace. We should preach 'doing nothing' as grace or God's doctrine for our life; not any law or repentance which are difficult for our life.""
I will tell them, Do you agree that the finished work of Jesus is the beginning of our work too? If you read the Bible, you will know that all the sinners have been taught on how to receive grace. The only way to receive grace according to the words of the Lord in the Bible is - Repentance and the works meet for repentance. It must be sincere repentance with fruits worthy of repentance (Mat 3:8, Luk 3:8). Without repentance, no one can see God and come to God for grace. That's why Jesus and all His disciples would not just preach grace or just the name of Jesus; they preached repentance in the name of Jesus. They preached about how to receive grace (or repentance) in the name of Jesus. Hence, preaching of grace without preaching of how to receive grace (or repentance) will not lead the sinners to the grace of Jesus Christ under His covenant. It may lead to vain and complicated mind changing philosophy or Old Testament favours; however, it will never lead to God's grace under the New Covenant through the simplicity and preaching of Jesus Christ.
  • Mat 4:17 KJV  From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
  • Luk 5:32 KJV  I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
  • Luk 24:45-47 KJV  Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,  (46)  And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:  (47)  And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Can we come to God in any way we like, by just thinking of radical grace 
They say, "We can enter God's presence with boldness. If you were a son of the CEO or director of a large company, do you still need to seek for an appointment from the secretary to see your own father, like the other employees of the company ? No. Have you forgotten that you are his children, and you could just storm into his office through the door and jump on to his lap ? .."
I will ask them, Have you forgotten that you could have been married for a long time and you could have grown-up children too ? Would you close the door of your bathroom and make sure that your children do not see your nakedness ? 
They will argue, "Of course, we don't let our children see our nakedness in the bathroom. But coming to God should not be compared to coming to our bathroom. Of course, we can come to God at any time and in whatever manner we like.."
I will tell them, Of course, we cannot compared it to coming to our bathroom; neither can we compared it to coming to our office too ! The question of whether we can come to God like our son coming to our office or coming to our bathroom cannot be based on what we think about it. We have to know what God said about it:
  • Luk 18:10-14 KJV  Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.  (11)  The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.  (12)  I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.  (13)  And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.  (14)  I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
  • Act 3:19-20 KJV  Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;  (20)  And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
  • Act 8:21-22 KJV  Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God.  (22)  Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.
  • Act 17:30 KJV  And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
  • Act 26:20 KJV  But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.
If coming to God is like what we think about our children coming to us, most of the unrepentant sinners would insist that God must accept them with radical grace if they come to God in whatever manner they like, even if they come without any repentance.

Radical grace could have been preached like a personality cult
I normally don't comment on how a preacher behaves or dressed. I always comment and talk about their doctrines and what they preached. However, sometimes how they behaved and dressed could give the young believers the wrong impression about what they preached. Hence, if radical grace is preached with heavy dependence on the sight, sound, lightings to appeal to people, something is not right. Some preachers are so insecure that they would create a sense of importance around them in order to impress the people. They would divide themselves from the people with many security guards, assistants, or “armor bearers” rather than building genuine relationships with their church members. They think that church is all about their stage performance, so they rely on sight, sound, theatrics, clothes, and a grand entrance to impress the crowd rather than just being normal, humble, and accessible servants. They could have preached radical grace as their personality cult rather than Jesus. Hence, radical grace is not always grace, so is ..


an iphone 4s which is not an iphone !
   


The worst sin against the words of God is not men's lawless deeds or selfish acts against others; but doctrinal hypocrisy or counterfeit teaching against His words and commandments
Hence, while many radical grace or hyper grace preachers can preach grace radically or beautifully, they cannot hide their hidden problem with the teaching and doctrine of Christ forever. While they can deceive some people for some time, they can never fool everyone forever. While they can teach some of the words of God convincingly, but they cannot do and teach the laws or commandments of God with the same conviction found in the hearts of the Apostles and disciples of Jesus Christ. While they can hide their lawless conviction very well, by teaching their man-made tips, instructions, and wisdom, in their marriage seminars or children camps on how to love their wives, children, girl friends, and boy friends, they cannot hide the pride and boasting of their lawless philosophy against the law and commandments of God. Yes, they may boast to have more gracious 'rules, advices, or do's and don'ts' for their believers and claim that they can teach better than the laws and commandments of God. However, unknown to many, they are hypocrites who hate the law of God and falsely accuse others who do and teach the words of God. If Jesus did not approve the hypocrisy of the Pharisees who made the commandments of God of none effect with their false and 'hyper' law teaching, neither will He keep quiet and say nothing to those who made His commandments of none effect with their false and 'hyper' grace teaching too:
  • Mat 15:5-7 KJV  But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;  (6)  And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.  (7)  Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
  • Mar 7:12-15 KJV  And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;  (13)  Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.  (14)  And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand:  (15)  There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
  • Luk 12:1-2 KJV  In the mean time, when there were gathered together an innumerable multitude of people, insomuch that they trode one upon another, he began to say unto his disciples first of all, Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.  (2)  For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known.
  • 1Ti 4:1-2 KJV  Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;  (2)  Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;



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Saturday 16 February 2013

To be kings or not to be kings

Radical grace preachers will say, "Why not ? We are kings. We should dream like Joseph. Otherwise we can never be successful. If you do not want to be kings, do you want others to be beggars like you ? If you do not want to be millionaires, do you want them to be poor like you ? Do you think that God wants us to be miserable ? Please don't be hypocrites. I know that deep down in your heart, you want to be rich too."
I will tell them, If we tell the people to be contented, are we telling them to be beggars. If we tell the people not to focus on the riches of this world, are we asking them to be poor. No, we cannot make the people rich or poor by just thinking, dreaming, or even believing. If we need to be convinced that we must prosper by hearing from you instead of hearing from God or God's words, something is wrong about your gospel. We don't need to preach or teach people to prosper. The people of the world have prospered without any of our preaching. In fact, many of them have already prospered more than us.The world would not need our preaching or our gospel to prosper. They know how to prosper better than many of us. However, they may know how to repent.

Do you need to dream to be kings?
Yes, Joseph was a dreamer and he became successful. But so did king David and king Saul too. They did not dream to be kings, yet they became kings too. Although king Saul became a king, he was not really successful.
  • 1Sa 9:17-21 KJV  And when Samuel saw Saul, the LORD said unto him, Behold the man whom I spake to thee of! this same shall reign over my people. ..  (21)  And Saul answered and said, Am not I a Benjamite, of the smallest of the tribes of Israel? and my family the least of all the families of the tribe of Benjamin? wherefore then speakest thou so to me?
  • 1Sa 16:7-13 KJV  But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart.  .. (12)  And he sent, and brought him in. Now he was ruddy, and withal of a beautiful countenance, and goodly to look to. And the LORD said, Arise, anoint him: for this is he.  (13)  Then Samuel took the horn of oil, and anointed him in the midst of his brethren: and the Spirit of the LORD came upon David from that day forward. So Samuel rose up, and went to Ramah.
Hence, to dream or not to dream, or to be kings or not to be kings is not the gospel. We cannot promise that everyone who dreams or who becomes a king will become successful; but we can preach that everyone who come to Christ and repent will be saved - this is the real gospel.

Jesus would never preach health and wealth as the gospel
Of course, God would not want us to be miserable; He wants us
  1. to be saved, 
  2. to be healthy, and 
  3. to be wealthy. 
However,  God would only want us to preach the first of all the above as the priority of our preaching - salvation of souls. The focus of the gospel or the Lord's preaching was always on salvation and on how to receive salvation through repentance. It is not on health and wealth. Yes, we know that the book of Acts was full of miracles, healing, signs, and wonders; however, can you find any of the Apostles preaching healing, health, wealth, prosperity, good life, and longevity in this world ? Please let me know if you can find any Bible verse which relates to the preaching or the teaching of health and wealth. Yes, Jesus did go around healing the sick, feed the hungry with His bread, and helping the poor, but He preached mainly repentance, keeping God's commandments, and loving others. Yes, He did send His disciples out to heal the sick and cast out the devils but did He send them out to preach health and wealth? No, He sent them out to preach His baptism of repentance and the gospel through repentance:
  • Mar 6:7-13 KJV  And he called unto him the twelve, and began to send them forth by two and two; and gave them power over unclean spirits;  (8)  And commanded them that they should take nothing for their journey, save a staff only; no scrip, no bread, no money in their purse:  ..  (12)  And they went out, and preached that men should repent.  (13)  And they cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed them.
  • Mat 6:24-33 KJV  No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.  .. (31)  Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?  (32)  (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.  (33)  But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

The true disciples of Jesus Christ would not preach health and wealth as the gospel 
Yes, I did find the following two Bible verses written by the Apostles which told us to prosper and to have long life:
  • 3Jn 1:2-4 KJV  Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.  (3)  For I rejoiced greatly, when the brethren came and testified of the truth that is in thee, even as thou walkest in the truth.  (4)  I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth.
  • Eph 6:2-3 KJV  Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise;)  (3)  That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.
However, they were the only two 'health and wealth' Bible verses I could find in the New Testament. Please think, Can we conclude that the whole gospel of Jesus Christ is the gospel of health and wealth based on just two Bible verses ? No, if only 0.1% of the New Testament is about health and wealth, we have to find out what the other 99.9% of the New Testament is about. I can guarantee that that those who read the Bible and understand the Bible will never conclude that the gospel of Jesus Christ is the gospel of health and wealth merely based on the two Bible verses.
Obviously those who think that they can conclude that the gospel of Jesus Christ is all about health and wealth (based on the above two Bible verses) have deliberately preached, exaggerated, or created too many imaginations, lies, diversion, Old Testament theories, old wine, self-deceptions, or self-efforts to give people the wrong impression about the gospel of Jesus Christ. They have expanded their health and wealth theories (based on the above two Bible verses) and mixed them with the 'old wine' in the Old Testament to distort the gospel of Jesus Christ. However, they do not realise that most of their prosperity theories and arguments on why the believers must have God's favour and prosper like kings, were 'old wine' prosperity teaching which could have already been abused, distorted, or radically preached by the greedy Pharisees long time ago.

The true disciples of Jesus Christ will not preach the Old wine teaching or the Pharisee's teaching
The Pharisees could have used the examples of Abraham's inheritance and king Solomon's riches to attract the people too. They could have used many Old Testament illustrations to distort God's laws and commandments secretly, but only the Lord knew about it:
  • Mar 7:11-13 KJV  But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.  (12)  And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;  (13)  Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
  • Mat 15:6-9 KJV  And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.  (7)  Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,  (8)  This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.  (9)  But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. 
  • Mat 3:7-10 KJV  But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?  (8)  Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:  (9)  And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.  (10)  And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
  • Mat 6:29-30 KJV  And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.  (30)  Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?
Hence, the teaching of the Lord is new wine, which would burst all the 'old wine' teaching of the Pharisees. However, when I heard today's preachers who argued, "The teaching of Jesus was Old covenant teaching or old wine teaching too. It was mostly hard saying for the Jews who were under the law", I would tell them, Do you know that you have the Pharisee's problem too ? You know that your 'old wine' skin or Old Testament prosperity teaching cannot contain the teaching of the Lord and that the words of the Lord would burst your old wine skin one day. So, you would just give the excuse and tell your believers that you could not follow the gospel that Jesus preached; but only the gospel of radical grace or the gospel that Paul preached. However, even Paul would still hear Jesus and preach the gospel that Jesus preached. Paul would still preach repentance too. It is not just repentance like mind changing philosophy only or like the Pharisee's repentance; it is repentance with fruits or works worthy of repentance.
Act 26:19-20 KJV  Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision:  (20)  But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.     

The true disciples of Jesus Christ would preach the gospel of Jesus Christ which brings repentance to keep God's words and commandments
Yes, the Apostles had probably given the believers the instruction or command to prosper in 3Jn 1:2-4 or to live long in Eph 6:2-3; but it was not preached as the gospel of Jesus Christ to the sinners. The sinners would never know God's instructions or God's commandments to keep them. Hence, we would never preach the command to prosper or to live long as the gospel to the sinners.
They will argue, "Of course, we won't preach health and wealth as the gospel to the sinners. But why can't we preach or teach about the health and wealth gospel to the believers, since the Apostles have written about it to the believers ?"
I will tell them, Yes, of course, you can teach about it or encourage the believers with the instruction to prosper, to live long, and to succeed in life; however, the Apostles did not tell you to preach it as the gospel to the sinners or believers. Please read 3Jn 1:2-4 and Eph 6:2-3 again. Do you realise that the promises in these Bible verses are the promises with the commandments ? They are the promises to the believers :
  1. who walk in truth (3Jn 1:2-4), and
  2. who obey God's commandments (Eph 6:2-3)
Obviously the promises of prosperity and long life are not for the sinners or believers who would not keep God's commandments, who would walk in darkness, who would refuse to repent, and who would just want to do nothing under the New covenant. If Paul had said so under the New Testament, he would say so to all of us who are under the New covenant too. Hence, how can we preach it as the gospel without any commandment or any repentance under the New covenant ?


The true disciples of Jesus Christ would not preach any 'God' or any 'Jesus' who can only heal or prosper us
My 'zouzou' dream - Recently I had a dream. In my dream, I heard from many people who told me that I could be healed of any sickness if I went to Africa. They said, "There is a wonderful 'God' who can heal EVERYBODY there. He would never ask us to do anything or give Him anything. He would just heal us unconditionally. He would 'zouzou' us. We would just need to know how much He would 'zouzou' us .. He would 'zouzou' us as we speak 'zouzou' to Him or confess 'zouzou' to Him.. " 
It was a short dream. I woke up immediately and wondered, What is 'zouzou' ? It was such a catchy word that it kept ringing in my mind. Later, I remembered that I had heard of someone who preached God's salvation as 'sōzō'. In his sermon, he interpreted God's salvation as an interpretation from the Greek word 'sōzō' or 'save'. Of course, there was nothing wrong about this interpretation or the preaching of God's salvation. But, the interpretation of my dream shows that many preachers and believers today are only interested to preach a God who can only 'sōzō' you or save you. Please ask yourselves and put yourselves into the shoes of those who are sick now, "If you had a healing need (eg. if you were crippled, blind, or infected with HIV), how would you respond if you heard of a 'God' who could 'sōzō' you ?" 
a. Is our God a 'zouzou' God who 'sōzō', heals, or prospers only ?
Most of you may not have thought about this question because you have not come to such a desperate need yet. However, my real question is: If you had a desperate need and you heard about this 'God' who can 'sōzō' you, would you question 'His' identity ? Or would you just rush to 'Him' without any questions ? Would you book a ticket and fly to Africa just because someone said that there is a 'God' who can heal EVERYBODY? When I read Acts, I realised that the people of Athens had probably heard of a 'God' who could 'sōzō' them too. However, Paul was not afraid to offend them when he said that they were believing in an 'UNKNOWN GOD', a 'God' who was probably similar to the 'God' in my 'zouzou' dream: 
  • Act 17:16-30 KJV  Now while Paul waited for them at Athens, his spirit was stirred in him, when he saw the city wholly given to idolatry. (17) Therefore disputed he in the synagogue with the Jews, and with the devout persons, and in the market daily with them that met with him.  (18)  Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoicks, encountered him. And some said, What will this babbler say? other some, He seemeth to be a setter forth of strange gods: because he preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection.  (19)  And they took him, and brought him unto Areopagus, saying, May we know what this new doctrine, whereof thou speakest, is?  (20)  For thou bringest certain strange things to our ears: we would know therefore what these things mean.  ..  (22)  Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious.  (23)  For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.  ...  (30)  And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
Do we know why the people of Athens and even the Jews argued daily with Paul in (v17) ? They felt offended because Paul told them that the true God would not just heal them, prosper them, bless them, or do whatever they like, like their puppet or idol. Paul told the people of Athens including the Jews that God commanded them to repent. Hence, they must repent and turn away from their sins if they want to turn to God. However, it is sad to know that many people including the health and wealth preachers today are offended by the preaching of repentance too. Like the people of Athens who accused Paul in (v20), they would accuse the repentance preachers for bringing 'certain strange things to their ears' or to their normal idea of an 'Unknown God' (who can only bring health and wealth to them too). They are offended because the repentance preachers preach like Paul and proclaim the gospel as the gospel of resurrection by repentance in the Lord (v30).
b. Jesus showed us that it is important to believe and preach His kingdom correctly
Many people will argue, "Is it important to preach the command of God to repent ? Must we preach the true and living God ?" I will say, Yes, it is very important. Do you still believe in the teaching of Lord Jesus Christ ? If you do, please read His words again:
  • Mat 5:27-30 KJV  Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:  (28)  But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.  (29)  And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.  (30)  And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Many radical grace preachers used this Bible text to argue that we do not have to keep any God's commandments. However, that was not the intention of the Lord. The intention of the Lord was to show the Jews including all His disciples that they could never be righteous enough even if they had obeyed all the ten commandments. He showed that that no one was too righteous to repent or confess their sins. That was something I could see and explain whenever we told the people why they would still need to repent, confess their sins, take up their cross, and keep God's commandments. However, today I could see something new after my 'zouzou' dream. When Jesus told us that it was better for us to enter the kingdom of heaven without an eye, a hand, a leg, a finger, a head, or any part of our body, He was actually telling us that it is better to enter the kingdom of God with the right heart and repentance than entering it with complete physical body, beautiful six pad abdominal muscle, and a uncircumcised heart which is full of sins. Similarly, if we believe and preach the kingdom of God, we must believe and preach it without fear of losing an eye, a hand, a leg, a finger, head, or any part of our body. Jesus showed us that we must believe and preach His kingdom or the gospel to such extent. Hence, how can we tell people that it does not matter if we preach any God or any kingdom ? Have you read the parable of the rich man and Lazarus in Luk 16:19-31 ? Yes, it was another confirmation that the Lord would prefer us entering His kingdom as 'beggars' with repentance than going down to hell as 'rich men' who did not repent on earth. Hence, Jesus has shown us 'terribly' clear that His gospel of repentance is better than any 'health and wealth' gospel, 'material' gospel, or 'rock star' gospel.
c. Jesus would destroy any material gospel which is preached like the Pharisees' 'religious gospel' 
They will say, "We are living in a monetary world or material world. What's wrong if we preach a material world or the health and wealth gospel ? Of course, we would not need the material gospel if we are in heaven. But have we gone there already ? No. If we are still in this world, we would certainly need the health and wealth gospel here before we can enter the kingdom of God. Yes, repentance is important but all of us have already repented. There is no more need for repentance. Hence, we need to preach more on health and wealth to the believers today, not repentance. That's why I received the new direction and revolution from the Spirit of the Lord to preach it. God will transfer the wealth of the world to the churches. And He will use the giving of the people to build the most beautiful and the most expensive churches to glorify His name. Do you know that the giving of the believers is mostly the material gain from this world ? So what's wrong if we preach material gains and the prosperity gospel to the believers ?"
I will tell them, If you are thinking like this, you are still thinking with the Old Testament mentality. The Pharisees had convinced the Jews to give to the temple or God because most of them had the mentality that God would be glorified by a beautiful temple or gorgeous synagogue. Hence, the Pharisees would take the giving of the people. In return, they would give the Jews their false assurance and lies:
  • Mar 7:5-13 KJV  Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?  (6)  He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. .. (11)  But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.  (12)  And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;  (13)  Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
I believe that Jesus had told His disciples not to follow the tradition of the Pharisees or give to them because He was about to 'destroy' the whole system of their corrupted law under the Old Covenant including their temple, their temple rituals, and their 'Corban' law.
Some will argue, "But didn't Jesus commend on the giving of the poor widow ? Jesus approved the giving of the poor widow as the best giving to God. Yes, Jesus had destroyed the temple but He did not take away the need to give our material gain to glorify God .."
  • Luk 21:2-6 KJV  And he saw also a certain poor widow casting in thither two mites.  (3)  And he said, Of a truth I say unto you, that this poor widow hath cast in more than they all:  (4)  For all these have of their abundance cast in unto the offerings of God: but she of her penury hath cast in all the living that she had.  (5)  And as some spake of the temple, how it was adorned with goodly stones and gifts, he said,  (6)  As for these things which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
I will tell them, Don't you understand the 'hint' by the Lord when He came out from the temple and talked about it?
  • Mar 13:1-2 KJV  And as he went out of the temple, one of his disciples saith unto him, Master, see what manner of stones and what buildings are here!  (2)  And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
If the Lord destroyed the temple or let the temple disappear totally, do you think that there was still a need to give to the temple or Him ? No, when the temple disappeared, the need to give to the temple or Him under the Old covenant would naturally disappear too. But we are still required to give to the poor or to the needy under the New covenant.
I will ask them to read Luk 21:2-6 again. Yes, the Lord did comment on the giving by the poor widow; but He did not commend on her giving. You can also check the same account in Mar 12:41-44. Jesus did just state the fact that the poor widow had cast in more than others. He did not give the comment as as a praise or compliment. Please think, If Jesus knew that the Pharisees and the scribes had been oppressing the poor and the widows, would He be pleased to see the widow continue to finance the Pharisees to run their religious activities in the temple ? No, it would all the more make Jesus more determined to destroy the temple and the Old Covenant. Many Jews thought that it was disrespectful for Jesus to say it. However, Jesus has the right to do it because He is God. Hence, if He gave covenant, He could change it or replace it with a new one. However, He would never change His words.     

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Sunday 10 February 2013

To keep God's commandment or keep good opinion of God ?

Radical grace preachers said, "Of course, it is important to have good opinion of God. Do you know why Adam and Eve fell ? It's because they did not have good opinion of God. They believed the words of the serpent and thought that God was a stingy God and that God would withhold many good things from them. Bad opinion of God is a sin. However, Christians today can still fall because of bad opinion of God. That's why we must constantly remind the believers to have good opinion of God and many positive confessions in our sermons, seminars, or facebook. We should only speak the good things about God; not the judgement or condemnation of our sins for our disobedience to His commandments or warnings. Otherwise, people will feel unsecured to do any repentance. They will not prosper. In fact, it is now our commandment and revolution to keep good opinion of God and to preach that He is always a smiling God (or a gracious God) who can never condemn us. He can only prosper us .."
I will tell them, Of course, I would think that it is important to have good opinion of God but something is wrong if we tell people to keep good opinion of God instead of keeping God's commandments. You could have given the wrong commandment to the people or given the wrong impression or teaching about God's commandments. We would definitely not be able to find anywhere in the Bible that tells us God is more pleased because we keep good opinion of Him rather than keep His commandments.

Which will please God - have good opinion of God or keep God's commandments?
However, we would find the following words of the Lord which tell us to keep and do God's will or God's words - God's will for us is to keep His commandments. His will never change. It is the same in the Old Testament as well as in the New Testament. It is to keep the commandments of His covenant.
  • Exo 19:5 KJV  Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
  • Tit 2:10-15 KJV  Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.  (11)  For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,  (12)  Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;  (13)  Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;  (14)  Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.  (15)  These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
  • Heb 8:10 KJV  For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
  • Mat 7:12-23 KJV  Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.  (13)  Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: .. (15) Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.  (16)  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?  ..  (21)  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.  (22)  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?  (23)  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.  (24)  Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
  • Luk 6:46-48 KJV  And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?  (47)  Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:  (48)  He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood (false doctrine) arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. (Hence, Jesus said clearly that He would not just want us to have right believing, right faith, right miracles, right preaching, or right confession only; he wants us to have right doing with His words too, because right doing would prove that we are His true disciples on the rock of salvation.)
  • Joh 14:21-30 KJV  He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.  (22)  Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?  (23)  Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.  (24)  He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.  .. (30) Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.  (31)  But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence. 
Please think, If you would teach the believers to keep good opinion of God, what's the problem if we would teach the people to keep God's commandments too ? If you think that believers could fall and lose God's favour, grace, or salvation because of bad opinion of God, don't you think that believers could fall and lose God's favour, grace, or salvation because of rebellion against God's commandments too. Hence, I would think that it is a lie if we promise the sinners and the believers today that they can never lose their salvation:
  1. by just confessing the name of Jesus Christ and having good opinion of God, even if they will rebel and preach against God's commandments 
  2. by lying and twisting God's words.
The Pharisees had good opinion of God but God was not pleased with them. Why ? It's because they did not keep God's commandments. Instead they changed God's commandments:
  • Luk 18:10-14 KJV  Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.  (11)  The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.  (12)  I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.  (13)  And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.  (14)  I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
  • Mar 7:6-13 KJV  He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.  (7)  Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.  (8)  For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.  (9)  And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.  (10)  For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:  (11)  But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.  (12)  And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;  (13)  Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
  • Mat 15:6 KJV  And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.
     
Which one will teach us ? God's words or God's grace ? 
They will argue, "But God did say, Jesus will teach us. Grace will teach us to obey God. We don't have to teach them to obey this and that or do this and that. Grace is a better teacher who will teach us. Grace can do a better job when it comes to teaching and keeping God's commandments. Grace has made our job easier. Hence, we, the preachers of God, would just need to teach others to have good opinion of God. Of course, we have the basis from the Bible when we say this. Please read the following Bible verses again:
  • Heb 8:10-11 KJV (10) .. I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:  (11)  And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
  • Tit 2:10-15 KJV  Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.  (11)  For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,  (12)  Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; ..
You have quoted the Bible verses above too. But do you know that we do not have to teach any God's doctrine or commandments because grace can teach now ? That's because we are in the New covenant !"

I will tell them, Did you read it carefully ? Yes, Heb 8:11 did say '.. they shall not teach every man.. saying, Know the Lord.' But it did not say, '.. they shall not teach every man God's doctrine or God's commandment.' Obviously God would still want us to teach all men God's doctrine and God's commandments. Yes, Tit 2:11-12 did say 'For the grace of God ..  (12)  Teaching us ..' But Tit 2:1 told us that it was 'sound doctrine' which began all the teaching in Tit 2 including the teaching of grace. It tells us speak, and exhort, and rebuke, and of course, to teach too.
  • Tit 2:1-15 KJV  But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine: .. (10) Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.  (11)  For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,  (12)  Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; .. (14).. that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.  (15)  These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
I will tell them, If you cannot teach correctly or soundly, please don't deceive the people that you don't have to teach. If you cannot do His commandment to teach, please don't lie that God would just want you to confess His name, have good opinion of Him, or say "Know the Lord, know the Lord.."

Have they kept God's commandments ?
They will say, "Oh, you have misunderstood us. We have never rejected God's commandments. We did tell people to keep God's commandments too, but we said it in a different way. It is a better way to keep God's commandments. We teach grace and grace will put the law of God into the hearts of men. We have also sung Psalm 1 and Psalm 34 about obeying God's laws. So, please don't falsely accused us as lawless preachers.."
I will tell them, Having preaching against God's commandment or twisted the words of God, do you think that you can find your way out of your lawlessness ? The only way out is to repent; not through arguments and evasive confessions. We have not misunderstood you because we know that you have cunningly changed God's commandment (of teaching, keeping, and doing His commandments) into your commandment (of just having good opinion of Him).
Do we have to please God? If we want to please God, what's wrong if we just simply tell others to keep God's commandments ? Why must we go one big round by telling people to do something else to please God, like listening to grace, confessing grace, or thinking of the righteousness of God instead ?
  • 1Jn 3:21-24 KJV  Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.  (22)  And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.  (23)  And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.  (24)  And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

Have they taught God's words or God's commandments with integrity ?
I will ask them, Have you taken a bus or a train at the public place before ? Have you seen young people who did not give up their seats to the older folks ? Yes. However, we have also seen many young people who gave up their seats to the old folks too. Now can we conclude that all our young people and children have been well taught because most of them would give up their seats to the old folks, and therefore, we would not need to teach our children any more, or that we would not need to teach them to give up their seats to the older folks, that we will just show our goodness and our love to them, and our goodness and love will lead them to do the right things when they grow up. No, it would be ridiculous if all our educators or teachers would adopt this type of philosophies.  
However, this is exactly what the preachers told us today. They argued that we will just need to show the people God's goodness or God's love, and God's goodness will lead them to do the right things when they are in Christ. I will tell them, Please think about the simple logic, Do you agree that there are still Christians who are like children ? They could be young and immature like the children, even though they could have accepted the Lord. They may not be just inconsiderate to the old folks; but they may also sin or live in sins ignorantly. Of course, they would still need to be taught. However, the irony is: many 'believers' today will still need to be told to repent or go back to the fundamental (but important) principles of repentance, faith, and resurrection, when they ought to be teachers by now:
  • Heb 5:12-14 KJV  For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.  (13)  For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.  (14)  But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.  Heb 6:1-2 KJV Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,  (2)  Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
  • 1Co 3:1-3 KJV  And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.  (2)  I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.  (3)  For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
  • 1Pe 2:1-3 KJV  Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings,  (2)  As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:  (3)  If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious. 
I will tell them, Please be honest. If you would still teach your children, won't you teach your believers too ? Do you know that many of our young believers can never become supernaturally or spiritually mature suddenly ? Otherwise, we would not need any Bible teachers or pastors to teach us the Bible any more.
  • 2Ti 3:15-17 KJV  And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.  (16)  All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:  (17)  That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
  • Mar 7:11-13 KJV  But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.  (12)  And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;  (13)  Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
  • Mat 15:6-9 KJV  And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.  (7)  Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,  (8)  This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.  (9)  But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Do you know that the pastors are not just preachers; they are also our mentors, our teachers, and our spiritual guardians ? They will teach us with the words of God, the commandments of God, the Bible values, and God's principles. But if they do not teach God's words or keep God's commandments, they would not be fit to be our pastors. Why should we let the Pharisees, the hypocrites, or the pastors, who would never keep God's commandments to teach us ?

Please think, Would you listen to them and give up your seats to the old folks too if they themselves would never give up their seats ? No. They can never be good teachers if they have no strong conviction, or no clear intention, to keep what they teach. Very likely they are just trying to give the false impression that they are obedient servants in front of others like the Pharisees.

Have they given plenty of excuses not to teach God's words and commandments ?
They will argue, "If we need to teach with integrity or keep God's commandments, many pastors would not be qualified. But Jesus knew that no one is qualified. That's why He made it easier for us. He has made us qualified. We will no longer need to keep God's commandments to be a qualified teacher. When more believers are qualified to become teachers, people will just learn more and learn better.."
However, I will doubt so. Please look at the Pharisees who taught the Jews to obey God but they would never keep God's commandments. Do you think that they were good teachers ? No. Jesus has never told us that we can be His good servants or good pastors if we rebel and change His commandments.
Radical grace preachers will say, "So, do you think that you can teach us ? However, have you kept ALL God's commandments ? Do you lust for women ? Do you watch pornography ? Do you gamble or buy lotteries ? Do you litter around ? Do you eat meat or kill the animals ? Do you lie ? Do you keep your own belongings and money and refuse to share with others ?  If you have done any of these, you are not fit to teach us too."
I will tell them, Yes, we admit that we will still sin and we may not be perfect. We are not good teachers. We cannot teach very well too. But we have the conviction to teach and to correct our students or children with God's words, God's commandments, and the Lord's teaching:
  1. Yes, we may not teach them not to lust very well (because we lust within), but we can teach them not to commit adultery. 
  2. Yes, we may not teach them not to be greedy very successfully (because we still covet within), but we can teach them not to steal. 
  3. Yes, we may not teach them not to be angry very effectively (because we still rage within), but we can teach them not to harm others
Yes, we may not share all our belongings with all the poor of the world (because we are quite possessive), but we can certainly show them how we can care for the poor, the weak, the sick, the old, and the needy. If we are still not able to do all these, we can still give up our seats to the old folks or give a cup of cold water to those who are thirsty.
We will never throw in the towel and tell our children, "Since not one of us can keep God's commandments, therefore, no one can teach you. Only God can teach you." No. Do you know what kind of people we will raise if we would just say that no one can teach them ? It would be tragedy for the next generation. We are giving them the false impression that, "Since God's commandments and family values are so difficult to keep and no one can keep any of them, you don't have to keep any of them too." Yes, I would think that that is the message some preachers could have subtly given to our children today whenever they said without much thinking that, "Only God, Jesus Christ, or Grace can teach you because no one can keep God's commandments !"

That's why I would never tell my students or children, "No one can teach you. Only God can teach you." However, we will always strive to become their role model or moral example even though we know that we may not be perfectly qualified. We would never do like the Pharisees, give them the popular man's beliefs or lawless doctrines, and teach them to keep nothing and do nothing.    

Have they set the right criteria for the people who will teach our children ?
They will argue, "Of course, we are under grace. Jesus has kept all the commandments for us so that we don't have to keep any of them. Otherwise, how can anyone of us teach others to do God's commandments ? You said earlier that you will still teach your students and children to keep God's laws because:
  1. you would not commit adulteries
  2. you would not steal
  3. you would not harm others 
However, if you have committed the above or if you are a con-man, a cheat, or a gangster, can you still teach ?"
I will tell them, Of course, any adulterers, prostitutes, gigolos, gamblers, gangsters, smugglers, criminals, or crooks can still teach and become pastors or role models for our children, but they must have repented. Otherwise, I would rather advise them to give others the opportunities to teach or to be pastors of our children. We do not need to please everyone or give everyone the false impression that, under grace, EVERYONE is righteous enough to teach or preach:
  • 1Ti 3:1-9 KJV  This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.  (2)  A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;  (3)  Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;  (4)  One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;  (5)  (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)  (6)  Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.  (7)  Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.  (8)  Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre;  (9)  Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience.
  • Jas 3:1 LITV  My brothers do not be many teachers, knowing that we will receive greater judgment.
When Paul set out the criteria for those who were apt to teach, did Paul say that anyone under grace can teach ? No. Paul said in (v2), "A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, .., .. " Did Paul say it as grace or optional guideline ? No, he said it as requirement. It could be more than the ten commandments when Paul said it as a 'must'. Do you still think that it is impossible to obey the ten commandments eg. not to kill, not to steal, and not to .. ? No, I don't think so. I would think that it is more impossible to to obey the criteria that Paul had set out for the bishops, elders, or those who were apt to teach ? Don't you agree that more people can obey the ten commandments better than obeying those criteria that Paul had set out for us ? Can we conclude that Paul's criteria or requirements for us have also become obsolete like the ten commandments, just because no one can keep them ? Of course, not.
  • Hence, I would certainly not advise the churches to appoint anyone, any adulterers, any prostitutes, or any gamblers, who believe or who are under grace, to teach. However, they must have believed, repented, and taken up their cross.
  • Mar 1:14-15 KJV  Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,  (15)  And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

The Bible did not tell us that we can never sin or never need to repent
They will argue, "But the Bible are full of Bible verses that those who believe in Jesus will no longer sin because they have become the children of the light. We will all walk in the light. I did not say so; the Bible said so. If this is so, why do we still preach repentance or teach people to confess sins or to repent from their sins ?"
I will tell them, Yes, we are called the children of the light. But are we there already ? No, we are still in the world of darkness and we can still sin or fall into it. However, if we have fallen, we can still rise up because of the grace of God:
  • Eph 5:6-10 KJV  Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.  (7)  Be not ye therefore partakers with them.  (8)  For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:  (9)  (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)  (10)  Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
  • 1Th 5:4-9 KJV  But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.  (5)  Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.  (6)  Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.  (7)  For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.  (8)  But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.  (9)  For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
  • 1Jn 1:7-10 KJV  But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.  (8)  If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.  (9)  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.  (10)  If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.  1Jn 2:1 KJV  My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: (I will tell the radical grace preachers, Obviously John was not writing to the agnostics here; but to the believers and sinners who would repent. John would never write to the agnostics that they should not sin. Why ? It's the agnostic would never be intersted to listen to John or read His letters. If they were agnostic, they would never believe or listen to John, or even God.)     
Pleas think again. Why did Paul said, "Be not partakers .., Proving.., Let us not sleep.., Let us watch.., .. to obtain salvation .." ? Why did he give us these warnings which suggest that the believers could still fall ? It is because he knew that believers who are purchased by the blood of Christ can still fall. He knew that the believers may not obtain salvation if they sleep, walk as the 'drunken', walk as in the darkness, become partakers with the rebellious, ... and sin like the people of the world. Hence, if we tell the believers that they can never fall, never sin, and never need to confess their sins, we are sleeping ourselves. How can we preach the gospel of light to the sinners and teach our believers:
  • Act 20:27-32 KJV  For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God.  (28)  Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.  (29)  For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.  (30)  Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.  (31)  Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.  (32)  And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified.

Do we just preach why people should be under grace without preaching of repentance?
They will argue again, "Under law, we cannot ... but under grace, we can ...; Under law, we are not ..., but under grace, we are... Hence, we must come to God under grace.. the more we come, the more we are forgiven. Hence, the more you come, the more you will live, the more you will shine, the more you will .."
I will tell them, Yes, you may have argued and preached all the right doctrines for 'under law, we cannot... but under grace, we can do this and that ..' and quote all the right Bible verses, but what's the use if you have deliberately omitted the most important fundamental truth from your preaching ie. repentance ? Do you know that 'the more you come, the more you are forgiven' can never happen unless you repent ? Yes, you may preach beautifully and make great comparison between law and grace, but what's the use if all your sinners who think that they are 'under grace' do not hear the preaching of repentance or know the importance of repentance. Yes, you may argue that they will repent automatically, but that's your presumption when you have no conviction to preach any repentance. Jesus has commanded us to preach repentance. Hence, it is not an Old Testament concept; repentance is a gift to the sinners for the remission of their sins. It is the gospel of Jesus Christ.
  • Luk 24:45-47 KJV  Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, .. (47) And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
  • Act 2:38-39 KJV  Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.  (39)  For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off (and to all of us in the future who will repent), even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
I will tell them, Secondly, your repetitive comparison between law and grace, eg. 'under law, we are ... this and this, and under grace, we are that and that ...', is terribly argumentative, yet it does not show the sinners what law will bring the curses of the law or why they should be bothered by it ? Of course, most sinners should not be bothered by it because they do not know God or God's laws, neither do they have any covenant with God. Hence, they can never be under the law, God's laws, or God's covenant. Instead, all the Gentiles and sinners are under lawlessness or sin after the fall of Adam and Eve:
  • 1Jn 3:4 LITV  Everyone practicing sin also practices lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.

We need to preach repentance because most people are under lawlessness; not under the law
They will argue, "How about the legalistic believers who believe in the law ? Many of them still believe in 'do good get good'. Don't you think that they are under the law ?"
I will tell them, This is ridiculous. Just because they believe in living godly lives or doing good, they can be under the law ? Paul believed in doing good and living godly lives too; was he under the law ? No. In fact, Paul did not just believe in doing good, he taught us to obey God and do good too.
  • Eph 6:1-3 KJV  Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.  (2)  Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise;)  (3)  That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.
  • 1Ti 6:14-19 KJV  That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: ..  (17)  Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;  (18)  That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate;  (19)  Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.
  • Tit 2:7 KJV  In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity, ..  (14) Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.  (15)  These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee. 
Hence, if Paul did good and taught people to do good while they were under grace in most of his teaching in the New Testament, we can certainly do good and teach others to do good too. So, please do not accuse any believers or churches who do good as the people under the law.
  • Yes, Paul and many traditional believers may be still under God's law or commandment to worship God, honour their parents, and do good; but
  • they would never be under 'the law' (or the Old covenant) to do the works of the law, eg the works of the ceremonial law, the circumcision, the animal sacrifice, the temple rituals, .. etc. 
I will ask the radical grace preachers, Now we know that the sinners can never be under the law, the believers who are under God's commandment to do good can never be under the law of the Old Covenant too; are there still anyone who are under the law ? I am afraid there is no other people except the Jews and the Pharisees who received the Old Covenant. However, if this is the case, why do you keep preaching repetitive and argumentative comparison between law and grace to the sinners and believers ? Are you still accusing the believers who do good and teach doing good as being under the law ? 
 
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Friday 8 February 2013

To forgive or not to forgive ?

What is God's forgiveness?
Radical grace preachers will say, "Of course, we will forgive as God has forgiven us (Mat 6:12-15). There is no question about it. But God has also shown us that He will always forgive us no matter what we have done. We will not need to always ask Him to forgive us.."
I will tell them, Of course, we know that we have to forgive as God has forgiven us. But do you know God's forgiveness ? If we think that God has forgiven us, we must know what is God's forgiveness. They will say, "Of course, we know what is God's forgiveness. We don't need anyone to teach us what is God's forgiveness. God's forgiveness is the goodness of God. In another words, God was angry with us; but now He is happy with us. God should condemn us; but now He would bless us and prosper us. He should judge us as sinners; but now He would only judge us as His children.. Are we wrong to preach these?"
I will tell them, Of course, there is nothing wrong to preach these. But these are not what Jesus would want us to preach. Obviously God's forgiveness are not all these if you read the Bible.

What is God's forgiveness based on Mat 18:21-35 ?
They will say, "What are you saying ? Are you saying that God's forgiveness are not the goodness of God and prosperity for us? On what basis would you say that? Haven't you read the following Bible passage on the basis of how God will forgive us and how we should forgive others: 
Mat 18:21-35 KJV  Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?  (22)  Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.  (23)  Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants... (27) Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt
Isn't it clear that God's forgiveness is His forgiveness of all our financial debt in this world? When we have no more debt, we would be blessed and we would prosper in this world, like the servant above also."  

God's forgiveness in Mat 18:21-35 is spiritual 
I will tell them, Yes, God's forgiveness is given to us based on the parable that was given by Jesus Christ in Mat 18:21-35; but it could be a very different basis from what you have expected or interpreted. Your basis of God's forgiveness could be wrong because you have confused yourselves and others about the forgiveness of God as the goodness of God or the favour of God. God's goodness and favour is given to everybody in this world. God's way of blessing on the rich and the poor; or on the sinners and the righteous is not a mystery. God's goodness is given to everyone. Mat 5:45-48 KJV .. for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.  (46)  For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? .. However, God's forgiveness is only given to His people who are peculiar and who know 1. His forgiveness, and  2. the basis of His forgiveness:  
  1. His forgiveness of our sinful debt in God's kingdom is NOT the same as the forgiveness of financial debt or financial 'curses' in this world. I would think that we should never confuse the people that our spiritual debt is just our financial debt or our lacks of prosperity; our spiritual debt is our sin or our sinful debt. Please use your head to think, If I happened to owe you $1 million and I became a true believer, will you think that God would forgive me so that I will not need to pay you? If this is what you think, please let me know where is your company or bank? I would like to be your first debtor or customer. Of course, we can't equate financial debt to spiritual debt and vice versa, and give the people the false promise that all our financial debt would be paid supernaturally and physically. Of course, we would still have to pay our financial debt eg. our car loan, housing loan, investment loan, gambling loan, or whatever loans we have from the banks. If God has forgiven our sinful debt, it does not mean that we have no more debt to pay in this world. Yes, we can say that God will help us to repay the debt to different parties in this world, but it would be a lie if we say that we have no more debt to pay.
  2. The basis of His forgiveness of our sinful debt is NOT the same as the basis of our forgiveness of other's debt. What is the difference between His basis and our basis of forgiveness? Of course, it would be different: He is God; we are not. We would forgive the debts of others on the basis that they must pay us. In another words, no payment, no forgiveness. However, God's forgiveness is not based on physical payment, it is based on the spiritual payment through His Son. Of course, we cannot pay God like we pay other with money, animals, crops, or good deeds. We are spiritually 'bankrupt' and would never be able to pay God. Hence, we could only ask for Him to pay for us. However, there is something common in His forgiveness of our sins and our forgiveness of others who have offended us - ie. someone must pay. Hence, we know that we must ask or get God to pay for us. But how do we ask or get God to pay for us?
  3. God will pay for us if we repent. Yes, repentance ! It is something that must be present in anyone's payment for the forgiveness of his sins or offences. Of course, God can make payment for us for the forgiveness or remission of our sins but He cannot repent for us.  
Jesus did not change or remove the requirement of repentance
In fact, He enforced it with the baptism of the Holy Spirit after John the Baptist had preached it with the baptism of water. On what basis ? On the basis of the following Bible verses from John the Baptist, God's voice, and the sign of the dove. 
  1. Mar 1:4-11 KJV  John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins .. (8).. : but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. (9)  And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan.  (10)  And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him:  (11)  And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
  2. Luk 3:3 KJV  And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins; 
  3. Luk 24:45-48 KJV  Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,  (46)  And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:  (47)  And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.  (48)  And ye are witnesses of these things.
The disciples would be the witnesses of the requirement of repentance
The two disciples whom Jesus talked to in Luk 24:45-48 could be the witnesses. He would tell us that Jesus had commanded us to preach repentance for the remission of sins after the Holy Spirit has been sent to convict all of us in the world of sin, of righteousness, and of judgement:
  • Joh 16:7-8 KJV  Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.  (8)  And when he is come, he will reprove the world (Kosmos) of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
The Holy Spirit will convict all of us, the sinners, the believers, and the churches who need to repent from the world. Hence, I will tell them, I don't think anyone can deny that Jesus Christ or the Holy Spirit can convict sins. If Jesus could convict the Pharisees by writing on the ground with His fingers and cause the Pharisees to leave one by one before Him (Joh 8:8-9), He can convict anyone in the world ('kosmos'), including the self-righteous believers, gnostic believers, agnostic believers, carnal believers, false believers, lying believers, worldly believers, or any kind of believers who think and argue that they can never be the sinners of the world and that, therefore, they can never sin or do not have any sin to be convicted by the Holy Spirit too. 

The Word of God and the Holy Spirit bare witness on the Lord's baptism too Please read the Bible verses from Mar 1:4-11, Luk 3:3, and Luk 24:45-48 above again. The water baptism of John the Baptist, the voice of God from heaven, and the descending of the dove (or the baptism of the Spirit) could be the witnesses of the water, the Word, and the Holy Spirit for baptism of repentance and the gospel of Jesus Christ:
  • Joh 19:34-35 KJV  But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.  (35)  And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.
  • 1Jn 5:6-11 KJV  This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.  (7)  For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.  (8)  And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.  (9)  If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.  (10)  He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.  (11)  And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
  • Joh 1:32-34 KJV  And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.  (33)  And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.  (34) And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.
  • Joh 3:5 KJV  Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

God would still want us to pay in repentance to those whom we have offended in the world
Hence, we know that God's forgiveness is given on the basis of repentance. And repentance is to die to sin or to accept death through Christ. It is death of self or the old man in this world, but life in the kingdom of God. However, many preachers say that they do not need to die to self in this world to get the forgiveness of God. They think that the forgiveness of God would also forgive them of all their debts they owed others too. However, I would think that it is an insult to God's forgiveness by relating it to the forgiveness of our debts to others in this world. They have preached the gospel like the gospel of the world. To show how they would mislead the thinking of the sinners and remove repentance from them, I will give a scenario:
Let's suppose that a murderer has accepted the Lord before he was convicted of his crime in the court. You were to give the sentence in the court for his crime now because you were the judge. Will you forgive him because he has accepted the Lord? No, you would make him 'pay' by giving him the sentence to go to jail. But some may argue, "God has forgiven him. God would not make him pay anything when He made His Son pay for him." I will tell them, No, God would pay for him the spiritual debt, He would not pay for him the debt he owed to the banks, the companies, and the victims. If he has stolen, he would have to repay those he has stolen from. If he has killed somebody, he would be answerable to the families of the victim and the law. It would be ridiculous for a murderer to be treated differently because all his sinful debts have been forgiven by God.
  • In fact, God would require all of us to pay the penalties we owe others in this world. Hence, if we have stolen from others, we would have to recompense others.  Luk 19:8-10 KJV  And Zacchaeus stood, and said unto the Lord; Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken any thing from any man by false accusation, I restore him fourfold.  (9)  And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house, forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham.  (10)  For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.
  • God would also require all of us to pay the penalties we owe the world too. Hence, if we owe the world, we would have to die to the world too. If we have the sin of the world, we would have to repent or die to the old man in this world. Luk 9:23 KJV  And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. Joh 12:24-26 KJV  Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.  (25)  He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.  (26)  If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father honour.
God would also want us to forgive (in our repentance) those who have offended us
I will tell them, It is a lie to tell everyone that God is too good to want us to pay our banks, our creditors, or our victims, that God would not want us to recompense if we have wronged others, and that God has paid all our debts in this world so that we have no more debt to pay or no more sin to repent from..

I will ask them, Have you read how Zacchaeus recompensed or restored those whom he had cheated or offended in Luk 19:8-10 above ? That was a very natural and clear attitude from a truly repented sinner. How can you preach that recompense, restoration, or paying of debts to those we have victimised is not always expected in your repentance. When Jesus said in (v9) that This day is salvation come to this house, He had shown Zacchaeus and us clearly that restoration is important in our repentance and salvation. Hence, it would be a great question mark if a sinner argues frequently that he has no more debts to pay because Jesus has forgiven him. I am afraid if he would not learn from Zacchaeus example, he could behave like the servant who thought that he had no more debts to pay and, hence, he was not obligated to forgive the debts of others too. 
  • Mat 18:28-34 KJV But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest. ..  (32)  Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:  (33)  Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?  (34)  And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.
a. justification by faith or by grace is only the beginning of a believer's forgiven life so that he can do more with the words and commandments of God in his life. The grace for cancellation of debts or forgiveness of debts is not given so that we can have more future debts or more future lawlessness. It is certainly not an excuse or license to have more future sins with no more repentance (or to sin wilfully). 
  • Luk 13:2-10 KJV  And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?  (3)  I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.  (4)  Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?  (5)  I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.  (6)  He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.  (7)  Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?  (8)  And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it:  (9)  And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.  (10)  And he was teaching in one of the synagogues on the sabbath.
b. Grace is not forever - it is given for the purpose of repentance, turning back to God's commandments, keeping God's laws, and doing His words. Grace is not given for the purpose of enjoying or living in lawlessness forever. Grace is not there forever if we are forever lawless in our hearts or minds. However, if we repent, keep the commandments of God, and live with the laws of God in our hearts and minds, God will remember all our lawlessness no more and He will be our God forever: 
  • Heb 10:16-17 LITV  "This is the covenant which I will covenant to them after those days, says the Lord: Giving My Laws on their hearts, and I will write them on their minds;"  (17)  also He adds, "I will not at all still remember their sins" and their lawlessnesses. ..  
  • Heb 8:10 LITV  Because this is the covenant which I will covenant with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord, giving My Laws into their mind, and I will write them on their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be My people." 
  • Luk 19:8-10 LITV  But standing, Zaccheus said to the Lord, Behold, Lord, half of my possessions I give to the poor. And if in anything I accused anyone falsely, I restore it fourfold.  (9)  And Jesus said to him, Today salvation has come to this house, for he also is a son of Abraham.  (10)  For the Son of Man came to seek and to save the one being lost.
Hence, the cancellation of debt or forgiveness of debt is not given so that a believer can have more future debt or lawlessness forever. It is certainly not an excuse or license to have more future sin or lawlessness without any repentance. However, many preachers have deceived the believers into thinking that they can literally expect forgiveness of all their future sins, and even supernatural cancellation of all their future financial debts, if they will just radically believe or do and teach their 'holy communion's blood cleansing' ritual, 'pure grace' confession, 'supernatural' favour, 'mind changing' philosophy, or 'false repentance' to disregard and to 'repent' from all the laws and commandments of God. I did write about some preachers who have managed to quote the Bible out of context and capitalise on this 'supernatural' deception or 'cancellation of debts' to transfer effortless wealth to themselves. (see "Supernatural cancellation of debts - Is it really a supernatural transfer of wealth, a religious gimmick, or just a vain religious boasting?" in my previous post here.)

  
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