Sound doctrine Vs Radical grace ?: What is the most obvious error in radical grace doctrine ?

(But it is also well-hidden unless we ask questions on its belief:)

The believers have no more laws to keep ?
The believers have no more future sins or the believers can never sin in the future?
The sinners or believers do not have to confess sins ?
The believers will not need to walk by the law of God and the Spirit ?
The believers do not need to preach or believe in the gospel of repentance ?
The believers will only need to meditate on the law of God ?
The believers must not think of God's laws? otherwise, they will mix grace with law, and will be under the law?
The believers will just need to believe only ?
The believers will not need to do any works under grace or under the New covenant ?
The believers must preach grace radically; otherwise people's lives will not be changed ?
The believers do not need to hear any God's warnings ?
The sinners will just need to come as he is to God (without doing any repentance) ?
Law demands but grace supplies?
The believers do not need to do all the Lord's commandments ? otherwise, they will mix grace with law and will be under the law ?
The preachers today do not need to preach repentance any more; only grace ?
The sinners are saved only by the gospel that Paul preached ?
The believers today cannot take direct command or warning from God ?
What men call balance, God calls it a mixture ?
We must preach grace radically until everyone misunderstood us; otherwise we have not preach the gospel ?
The sinners should be delivered from the law, not lawlessness or sin ?
God told us to meditate on His grace instead of on His words and commandments?
God's law will give us the 'demanding feeling' which will make us sin more psychologically ?
The believers who think of grace will be more gracious than those who think of laws ?
The believers and sinners would be under the law if they do not think enough of grace?
The believers should never think of any law because law kills?
The believers will not need any teaching because Jesus will teach them personally?
The believers will now preach the gospel of Paul instead of the gospel of Jesus Christ?
The believers will never be rebuked or disciplined by the Lord?
The believers can never be convicted by the Holy Spirit?
Under the law, all sinners must repent; but under grace, God must forgive ?
The believers can be taught better by radical 'grace' than by God's commandments?
You are more favoured by God if you have favours?
We have to preach grace radically or God radically ?

1. The believers have no more laws to keep ?

Radical grace or hyper grace preachers will say, "But no one can keep all God's laws. Jesus said, If you look at a woman and lust after her, you have broken the law (Mat 5:28). When you broke one law, you have broken all the laws.. Under the law, we are all condemned. But under grace, we do not have to keep any laws to be righteous. We are righteous even if we broke all the laws. That's why we can never be condemned under grace .."I will tell them, No, Jesus did not say that if you look at a woman and lust after her, you have broken all the laws and therefore you do not need to keep any laws. If what you said is true, why did He said:

Joh 14:15 KJV If ye love me, keep my commandments
Joh 15:10-12 KJV If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; .. (12) This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

If I were you, I would not simply give people the excuse by deliberately changing or misinterpreting the teaching of the Lord. When Jesus said that if we look at a woman and lust after her, He wanted all of us, including the Pharisees, to know that we are the sinners who have the propensity to sin, no matter how righteous we may think about ourselves. That's why Jesus said, No one (including the Pharisees) is righteous enough to enter the kingdom of God without admitting sins through repentance under His covenant, unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the Pharisees:

Mat 5:1-28 KJV And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: (2) And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying .. (20) For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. .. (28) But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. (This Bible verse alone has also shattered the next radical grace doctrine of 'no future sins' which I will explore further later.)

Jesus knew that all His disciples could not keep all the laws perfectly well too, but He did not say that, therefore, there was no need to keep any laws. However, He did show them the need to repent.
Hence, I will tell the radical grace preachers, Please do not always quote Jesus saying out of its context to change God's laws and promote your radical grace philosophies. You should never say that "if no one can keep any laws, we do not need to keep any laws too". If you preach like this to the lawless people, you may convert all of them immediately, but it is not a true conversion. Ultimately, you may convert the whole world 'under grace' and become the biggest church, but you have also brought lawlessness into the churches under the disguise of 'radical grace'. Can anyone or any sinner be under the New covenant without keeping any laws ? No. It's because God's laws are in both the Old and New covenant. I will explain in details next time why there is God's law (to keep) in both the Old and New covenant.

Heb 8:10-13 KJV (10) For this is the covenant .. I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, ... (12) For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. (13) In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old...

They will still argue, "How about the adulterous woman whom the Pharisees would like to condemn John 8:3 ? The Pharisees were full of the law and keep many laws. As a result, they loved to condemn others.."

I will tell them, Yes, they were full of the law but it was not God's law; it was their own law, the Corban law (Mark 7:11), the law of circumcision, and many laws which they had invented. But in the eyes of the Lord, they were lawless people and were full of iniquities.

Mat 23:28-29 KJV Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity. (29) Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
Mat 23:28-29 LITV So you also indeed outwardly appear righteous to men, but within are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness. (29) Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you build the tombs of the prophets, and adorn the tombs of the righteous.

Obviously Jesus did not rebuke the Pharisees because they believed or obeyed all God's laws and commandments. On the contrary, Jesus rebuked them because they were lawless. Hence, please stop repeating and quoting the Lord's sermon out of its context to promote your lawless philosophies. Yes, the Pharisees were full of the law, but correction, they were full of 'the law' of the Old covenant; not God's laws. Hence, I think you owe the people an explanation whenever you preached against the Pharisees and the law. Because of your evasive or wrong preaching against the law, many people were influenced to love lawlessness (or lawless teaching) knowingly or unknowingly. You have to be clearer in your message about God's laws; otherwise, you will raise up a lawless generation and fulfil an end time prophecy of the Lord more quickly:

Mat 24:11-12 LITV And many false prophets will be raised and will cause many to err. (12) And because lawlessness shall have been multiplied, the love of the many will grow cold.

Hence, Jesus would never rebuke the Pharisees because they had kept too many God's laws; but on the contrary, because they had kept lawlessness.

Jesus would never feel tired of telling people to keep God's commandments because He said in Mat 5:17-20 KJV Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. (18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. (19) Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (20) For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
But yet God is tired of the preachers who preach lawlessness today, teaching people to abandon God's laws: Mal 2:17 KJV Ye have wearied the LORD with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied him? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil is good in the sight of the LORD, and he delighteth in them; or, Where is the God of judgment? Mal 3:1 KJV Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts... (7) Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the LORD of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return? (8) Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings ... (13)Your words have been stout against me, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, What have we spoken so much against thee? (14) Ye have said, It is vain to serve God: and what profit is it that we have kept his ordinance, and that we have walked mournfully before the LORD of hosts? (15) And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are set up; yea, they that tempt God are even delivered.

We know that Malachi was a prophecy about the coming of the Lord after the corruption of God's covenant and ordinances under the Old Testament. However, it can also be a prophecy about the second coming of the Lord who will come suddenly to the churches. It has many similarities with the last book of the New Testament, Revelation, when we will see the corruption of God's covenant again by the beast and the abomination of desolation just before the coming of the Lord. They will reverse the Lord's teaching and commandment, and teach people to do nothing. According to another Bible translation on Mal 3:14-15 LITV, they will boast about their prosperity and preach, ".. It is vanity to serve God. And, What profit is it that we have kept His charge, and that we have walked as mourners before Jehovah of Hosts? (with repentance?) (15) And now we are calling the arrogant blessed. Not only are the doers of wickedness built up, they also test God, and escape."

They will still argue, "The above Bible verses are no more applicable to us. They were for the Jews or those who were under the law only. Besides, it is only quoted as a warning or a curse for the believers who never pay their tithes today. We can use it to 'encourage' the believers to give more to the churches; but not to use it warn or condemn ourselves. We cannot be condemned because we are under the New covenant .. Besides, we are the preachers of radical grace .. "
I will tell them, If you are the preachers and if you are preaching God's covenant, the prophecy of Malachi is for you. Please read it again. It is a prophecy and warning for the priests, Pharisees, and the preachers who preach God's covenant:

Mal 2:1-9 LITV And now, O priests, this command is to you. (2) If you will not hear, and if you will not set it on your heart to give glory to My name, says Jehovah of Hosts, then I will send the curse on you, and I will curse your blessings. And indeed, I have cursed it, because you are not setting it on your heart. (3) Behold, I am rebuking your seed, and I will spread dung on your faces, the dung of your solemn feasts; and one will lift you up to it. (4) And you shall know that I have sent this command to you, to be My covenant with Levi, says Jehovah of Hosts. (5) My covenant with him was life and peace, and I gave them to him for fear; and he feared Me, and he is put in awe before My name. (6) The Law of truth was in his mouth, and iniquity was not found in his lips. In peace and in uprightness he walked with Me, and he turned many from iniquity. (7) For the lips of the priest should guard knowledge, and they should seek the Law from his mouth; for he is the messenger of Jehovah of Hosts. (8) But you have turned out of the way; you have caused many to stumble at the Law. You have corrupted the covenant of Levi, says Jehovah of Hosts. (9) So I have also made you despised and low to all the people, just as you have not kept My ways, but are lifting up faces in the Law.

2. The believers have no more future sins ?

I will just explore on what they have said earlier, "But no one can keep all God's laws. Jesus said, If you look at a woman and lust after her, you have broken the law. When you broke one law, you have broken all the laws.. Under the law, we are all condemned. But under grace, we do not have to keep any laws to be righteous. We are righteous even if we broke all the laws. That's why we can never be condemned under grace .."
When they said the above, they were trying to tell people that they have no more law to keep under grace or under the New covenant. I have explained why there is still God's law in the New covenant. But, now, I can explain why they have contradicted themselves when they said the above (words underlined). They have actually admitted that their doctrine of 'no more future sins' or 'no more need to confess sins' for their believers is wrong. How? The reason is because, when they said that all men, including the Pharisees, can break the laws and sin, they have also admitted that they could sin, and if they could sin, they would have to confess sins too. If they have to confess sins, their doctrine on 'no more future sins' for their believers is a flop.
But they will still argue, "No, we will never sin, have any future sins, or have the need to confess sins. We are no more sinners because we have received Jesus. We are under grace. Our sins have all been cleansed thoroughly. We are perfect in the eyes of God. Even if we have committed any future sin, it is no more a sin in the eyes of God because we are under the New covenant. God has forgotten all our sins. He said, Heb 8:10-13 KJV (10) For this is the covenant .. I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, ... (12) For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. (13) In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old...
I will tell them, Yes, God is merciful to our unrighteousness. But It's because we are under the New covenant, but we will still have to keep His laws and commandments.
Please be honest, Do you still lust after other women? If you do, does it make sense to say that, when the non-believers lust after other women, Jesus would considered it as sin; but when you have the same lust for other women, you are considered as righteous now? No, you are self-righteous.
Similarly, it would not make sense to say that the sins committed by the non-believers are sins; but sins committed by the believers are no more sins too. Come on, it would be blindness if people would still consider you as righteous when you have committed similar crimes or sins as the non-believers.
Yes, God did say that He will not see our sins because God will forgive us. But God did not say that we can ignore our sins. Yes, God will not see our sins as sins but it does not mean that we can see our sins as our excuse to remain unrepentant of our sins. If we do not see our sins as sins even after we have accepted Jesus, we have not truly repented yet. If we have not truly repented yet, we are not under the New covenant yet; we are still under the blindness of sin.

3. The sinners or believers do not have to confess sins ?

Of course, if radical grace preachers' assurance of no more future sins for all their believers is not true, their promise of no more need to confess sins would become a lie too. Obviously believers will still have to confess sins if they still sin or will sin, unless they are totally perfect:

1Jn 1:6-10 KJV If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: (7) But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. (8) If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. (9) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. (10) If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

The Bible verses above have not only shown us that we have sinned and that we have sin too. However, radical grace preachers will insist that the Bible verses above are not for them; but for the agnostics. I will tell them to count the number of 'we' and 'us' in the Bible passage above. Now, ask ourselves, Can we put our name over everyone of 'we' or 'us' there ? Is it applicable to us ? Of course, we can put ourselves there because we are the sinners who have sinned and have sin too.

1 Jn 1:8-10 KJV If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us... (10) If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

If John would identify himself with the sinners and put himself in their shoes with 'we' and 'us', I don't see any reason we should be afraid to put ourselves in their shoes to. Now, after we have put ourselves in their shoes, how can we say that these Bible verses are not for us. Now, please be honest, Were you an agnostic before you knew Christ ? If this Bible verse was for you when you were an agnostic, this Bible verse is still for you today. Why? It's because confession of sins, admission of sins, or repentance in the heart is a process or a life long, humble, and on-going experience for the perfection of the believers (or even saints). Jesus can die once and for all, for all the sinners in the past, present, and future. He does not need to die again and again. But we are not God. We need to 'die' again and again to ourselves by taking up our cross daily.

Luk 9:23-24 KJV And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. (24) For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.

Have you ever heard people talking about some preachers or pastors who had been caught in an adulterous relationship, viewing pornography, or buying sex from the prostitutes? Can we conclude that they have never been saved or that they have lost their salvation? No. A believer may fall into sins but he may not lose his salvation.
Now, there are people who would argue for the sake of argument. They will disagree and say, "No, you have preached condemnation. A true believer can never fall into sin and can never lose his salvation too.." I will tell them, It is meaningless to create this kind of argument when you have defined that the true believers is a 100% saved believer. Please think, Does it make sense to say, A true believer or a 100% saved believer can never sin or lose his salvation? Of course, if you have already concluded and passed judgement that he is a 100% saved believer and true believer, he would never lose his salvation. Of course, we may think that we are that 100% saved believer, but we won't say it for all others believers because we are not God, we cannot guarantee it for everyone. However, generally, we know that there are believers, preachers, pastors; or even radical grace preachers or sound doctrine preachers who fall into sins too. Of course, we will not conclude that because they have fallen into sins, therefore they are not true believers and can never be saved.
Hence, I submit to you that while it is possible for a born again Christian to fall into sin, it is impossible for him to have no future sins or to be totally without sins. Hence, I don't see any reason why a believer can never confess sin, repent from his sins, or allow the Holy Spirit to convict him of sins. Jesus had proved to the Pharisees that we are all sinners who have the lust and propensity to sin, no matter how righteous we may think we are. That's why Jesus said, No one (including the Pharisees) is righteous enough to enter the kingdom of God without believing Him (by admitting and confessing sins through His repentance gospel), unless our righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the Pharisees. Jesus used the illustration of the lust of men for other women to show that they had sins and would sin. I hope that I do not need to use the same illustration again to prove that the radical grace preachers have sins, will sin, and will need to confess sin too. I hope that they will not be offended like the Pharisees when I show them the following Bible verses:.

Mat 5:20-28 KJV .. (20) For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven ... (28) But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. (Jesus did not say that we should be as righteous as the Pharisees, but He said we should be more righteous than the Pharisees who were hypocrites. In another words, 1. All the Jews must still repent even though they thought that they were as righteous as the Pharisees, 2. All of us, who are now in Christ should never follow the deceivableness of unrighteousness (2Th 2:10) that is in the Pharisees or hypocrites too.)

In justifying themselves so that they will appear as more righteous and would not need to confess their sins, both the Pharisees and the preachers may vehemently argue, "No, Jesus did not tell us to repent or confess sin; Jesus only told us that we don't have to keep any laws. If no one can stop watching pornography, calling the prostitutes, and committing adulteries, no one can keep the law ! That's why we need to preach grace and not the laws !"

I will ask them, Do you know what Jesus meant when He told the adulterous woman, "Sin no more" ? He told her to repent ! Jesus had been preaching and telling the people to repent, to confess sins, to admit sins, and to keep God's commandments; but you would only want to preach the reversed.
Some of them may still argue that Jesus would teach His disciples to repent, to metanoia, to change their minds, or to believe only. I will ask them, Did Jesus tell you that to repent is to believe only ? No, if Jesus had told His disciples to confess sins or to admit sins before God the Father, He would never give people the idea that repentance is just to believe only:

Luk 11:2-4 KJV And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth. (3) Give us day by day our daily bread. (4) And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.

They will argue, "But Peter had told the people to confess sins, John had told the people to confess sins, ok, Jesus had also told His disciples to confess sins. But Paul had never asked anyone to confess sins. We should listen only to the gospel that Paul preached. It is the real gospel or the new covenant because it has no confession of sins. Jesus' commandment to the disciples to confess sins was the old teaching for the Jews.."
I will ask them, What ? Are you saying that the gospel preached by Paul (without repentance or confession of sin) is the real gospel, but the gospel of Jesus Christ with repentance and confession of sins is the old teaching? Do you know that the gospel preached by Paul is totally based on the teaching of Jesus Christ? Obviously, you have misunderstood Paul or blinded yourselves. If Paul did not write about the teaching of repentance or confession of sins, it does not mean that Paul had never preached repentance and confession of sins. He could be preaching it everyday so much so that it would be strange if he had to repeat himself and teach it to the churches. Paul had probably known that the gospel of Jesus Christ through the writings of the Gospel by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John and that there was no need for him to write another gospel as the Gospel by Paul. Although Paul did not write the gospel and explain the repentance preaching of Jesus Christ, he had preached against sins, called sinners to repentance, and commanded them to turn back to God with their lives in the book of Acts and Romans too:

Act 26:19-20 KJV Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision: (20) But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.
Rom 6:15-16 KJV What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. (16) Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

I will ask them, Have you asked the sinners to pray the sinner's prayer before they accept the Lord ? Obviously, you are confused when you preached that Paul had never asked the sinners or believers to confess sins, and yet you would still lead them to pray the sinner's prayers. Yes, you may have designed your prayers in such away that there is no obvious confession of sins; however, you are only contradicting yourselves and confuse the people when you would still tell them pray like this, "God, I thank you that you are good, you are forgiving, you are love, you ... I thank you that Jesus has called us to repentance. Thank you that you love us while we are yet sinner, Jesus died for our sins. ~~Hence, we confess our sins and~~ thank you that you have forgiven all our sins.."
I will tell them, Firstly, thanking God for His forgiveness of their sins may not be always be true confession of sins or repentance if it is just parroted confession. Yes, they may have admitted that they are sinners, they have sins, ..~~.(blank)~~.. and that they have now been forgiven of their sins. Yes, you may think that this a perfect sinner's prayer and it is humble enough to receive God's forgiveness and grace, but the deliberate effort to omit, cover, hide, distort, blur, confuse, or weaken the confession of sins in your preaching and leave it ~~'blank~~' in the sinner's prayer is not humble or sincere enough to God when your real intention is to prevent the people from doing clear and sincere confession of sins before God. You may argue that the above sinner's prayer is humble enough to confess sins and lead them to repentance later on, but the way you argue and twisted the Lord's repentance message with lots of evasive excuses and oxymoron arguments will only discourage them from doing repentance later. They will in the end abhor repentance, criticise the repentance preachers, and accuse those who preach clear, sincere, and strong repentance as condemnation preachers.

4. The believers will not need to walk by the law of God and the Spirit ?

I will tell them, The Bible has told us that we will still need to repent and confess sins. Yes, Jesus is the Son of God who can die once and for all and His blood is powerful enough to cleanse all the sinners of the past, present, and future. But we cannot repent once and for all, for our past, present, and future sins. It's because:

We are not God
We are still human
We are still not perfect in the law of God yet - Rom 7:21-22, 25 KJV I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. (22) For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: .. (25) I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
We are still wrestling with the law of flesh and the law of sin - Rom 7:23-24 KJV But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. (24) O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? (Did Paul say that he could never sin because he was under grace? No, if he could never sin, he would never said "O wretched man that I am! (v24)", confess that he was still brought under the captivity of sin (v23), and admit ".. the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do (v19)". Hence, if Paul still sinned or confessed publicly about his existing weakness or sins in his wretched man, why can't a believer or a sinner confess his sins and admit that he has sinned too? If Paul did not think that he could insult the righteousness of God by admitting or confessing it, how can we think that we will insult God's righteousness by confessing our sins? If Paul was not ashamed to confess about his sinful deeds or wretchedness, why should we be afraid to confess our sins ???)
We can still be carnal - Rom 7:14-15 KJV For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. (15) For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
We can still be influenced by sin to do sin - Rom 7:17-20 KJV Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. (18) For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. (19) For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. (20) Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
We will still need to walk by the law of God and the Spirit - Rom 8:5-9 KJV For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. (6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. (7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. (8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. (9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

5. The believers do not need to preach or believe in the gospel of repentance ?

Is there a difference in believing in the Lord and believing in the word of the Lord. I will say, There should not be any difference because if we believe in the Lord, we must believe in the word of the Lord also. Hence, when the Bible tells us to believe in the Lord, it tells us to believe in the word of the Lord too. To believe in the word of the Lord means to believe in the teaching of the Lord and the repentance message of the Lord. Hence, it will not make sense if we will just believe only. Why? It's because common sense tells us that whenever we believe, we must believe in something; for example, we believe in the Lord, believe Him, believe His word, or believe God. We won't say we just believe, and full stop.

I have also explained it in my previous postentance @ 4. that repentance has something more than just believing only. So, I will not want to repeat it here. However, I can point out that Jesus had preached repentance as the gospel. He wants us to believe in the gospel of repentance. We should know why it is the gospel to all the sinners who will repent:

In the beginning of the gospel, Jesus preached repentance as the gospel: Mat 4:17-19 KJV From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.. Mar 1:14-16 KJV Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, (15) And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. (16) Now as he walked by the sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and Andrew his brother casting a net into the sea: for they were fishers.
During His preaching of the gospel, Jesus used many parables to explain repentance to the people. He had even sent out His disciples to preach repentance too: Luk 16:30-31 KJV And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. (31) And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. Luk 15:21 KJV And the son said unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and in thy sight, and am no more worthy to be called thy son. Mar 6:12-13 KJV And they went out, and preached that men should repent. (13) And they cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed them.
At the end of His preaching, He still commanded all His disciples to preach repentance: Luk 24:45-48 KJV Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, (46) And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: (47) And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. (48) And ye are witnesses of these things. Mat 28:19-20 KJV Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: (20) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. Act 2:38 KJV Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Act 26:19-21 KJV Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision: (20) But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance. (21) For these causes the Jews caught me in the temple, and went about to kill me.

Hence, I would believe that

the gospel of Jesus Christ is the gospel of repentance to all the sinners, whilst
the gospel of grace preached by Paul which was widely argued and debated in his letters to the Romans, Hebrews, and Galatians, is the gospel of freedom from the law to some of the Gentile believers who were oppressed by the Jewish believers.

Since most of the Gentile believers today are no under the oppression of the Jewish believers, the gospel of repentance to all the sinners would be the gospel we should preached to the whole world. In another words, the gospel of repentance preached by the Lord should be more relevant to all the sinners today.

6. The believers will only need to meditate on the law of God ?

Obviously, telling the people to just meditate on the law of God could be a 'lawless cover-up' by some preachers after they have accused the churches for preaching, keeping, and obeying too much law and commandment from the Lord. The intention is clear. After giving the false impression that the churches have preached many laws like the Pharisees, some lawless preachers would want to cover their back by saying that they did not reject the law of God outright. They will preach and confess repeatedly:

Psa 1:1-2 KJV Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. (2) But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.

A lawless excuse which would not do the law of God - They will tell everybody just to meditate on the law of God and that when they meditate on the law of God, 'the meditation of the law will lead them to keep the law of God'. They will then vehemently deny that they are antinomians because they have just preached the law of God to cover themselves.
An unrepentant excuse which would not do true repentance - However, I will think that this is a similar tactic used by the preachers who will tell the people or sinners to just believe only and that 'grace will lead them to repentance' after they have vehemently accused the churches for preaching too much repentance and condemnation to the sinners.

I will tell them, What's wrong if we tell the people to repent or to keep God's laws? Why must we go one big circle before we tell them to repent or to keep the word or the commandment of God ? Is it wrong to preach the the law and commandment of God without covering up ? Why can't we just preach it directly and honestly ? I will tell them honestly and confidently that there is nothing wrong for the churches to preach too much God's laws or too much repentance. Why ?

Didn't you tell your believers to meditate on the law of God ? How often should they meditate on the law of God ? If I heard you correctly; you've just told them to delight in the law of the Lord and to meditate on God's laws day and night with Psalm 1 ? Hence, if you can ask the people to do it so often, what's wrong if we tell them to always keep God's law and commandment too ? Similarly I would think that it is perfectly alright to always preach repentance to the sinners too; repentance is the gospel to all the sinners. I will ask them, How can preaching of repentance become the preaching of condemnation when it will save them ultimately ? Yes, preaching of repentance and sins may become preaching of condemnation and judgement; but it is only to those who refuse to repent.
They will argue, "But I am not wrong to preach on the meditation of God's law, right? I have been telling people to think of God's law. When we think of God's law, it will lead us to keep God's law.."
I will tell them, I am not saying that you are wrong. But neither can you say that those who tell people directly and honestly to keep God's law is wrong. Please read Psalm 1 again:
Psa 1:1-2 KJV Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. (2) But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
The Bible verses above involve doing also. By not participating with the sinners, by obeying God's law, or by doing something, we keep the law of God too. Of course, the Bible verses above did not just tell us to meditate only. It tells us to do it. We should know that this is the Spirit of all the law of God in Bible. I don't see any reason we must hide it or take away from the preaching of the law of God.
They will now try to switch the meaning of the law of God by saying, "The law of God in Psalm 1 is not a commandment or command. It is not about moral requirement. To meditate on the law of God is just to meditate on the word of God..or to take in the rhema word of God .. to be filled with the word.."
I will ask them, Please be honest. Please read Psalm 1 again.. Don't you agree that 'walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly' is a moral requirement and command? .. The law of God in Psalm 1 is an obvious commandment of God or moral requirement for the believer. Please don't just ask your believers to meditate only; just do it.

7. The believers must not think of God's laws? otherwise, they will mix grace with law, and will be under the law?

I will ask them, Are you saying that if you preach or read Psalms and meditate on the law of God, you would be under the law ?

Psa 1:1-2 KJV Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. (2) But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
Psa 119:8-19 KJV I will keep thy statutes: O forsake me not utterly. (9) BETH. Wherewithal shall a young man cleanse his way? by taking heed thereto according to thy word. (10) With my whole heart have I sought thee: O let me not wander from thy commandments. (11) Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee. (12) Blessed art thou, O LORD: teach me thy statutes. (13) With my lips have I declared all the judgments of thy mouth. (14) I have rejoiced in the way of thy testimonies, as much as in all riches. (15) I will meditate in thy precepts, and have respect unto thy ways. (16) I will delight myself in thy statutes: I will not forget thy word. (17) GIMEL. Deal bountifully with thy servant, that I may live, and keep thy word. (18) Open thou mine eyes, that I may behold wondrous things out of thy law. (19) I am a stranger in the earth: hide not thy commandments from me.
Heb 10:15-17 KJV Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before, (16) This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; (17) And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

In fact, Jesus, Paul, and the Apostles taught us to read Psalms and follow its teaching:

Luk 24:44-47 KJV And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. (45) Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, (46) And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: (47) And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
Act 1:20 KJV For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.
Eph 5:19 KJV Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;
Col 3:16-17 KJV Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. (17) And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.
Jas 5:13 KJV Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms.

Hence, how can the believers be under the law or under the curse of the law if they meditate or think of God's laws and God's commandments in the book of Psalms? Obviously the law and God's laws are not the same when Paul preached against the law in his letter to the Romans, Hebrews, Galatians, and Corinthians. But radical grace preachers will argue, "When a believer thinks of the law or God's laws, it is the same. It will bring death. The law kills. When Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, they wanted to have the knowledge of good and evil. In another words, they thought they would be like God who can judge the good and evil with God's law. Hence, the curse of death came to them. They had literally put themselves under the law like the Israelites who thought of God's laws too. They said, All that the Lord commanded, we will do, that thought had killed 3,000 of them ... However, many Christians today still want to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil; they want to be under the law ..They want to sing about the laws instead of grace .."
I will tell them, God did not give the Israelites His laws just because they asked for it; God gave them His laws BEFORE they asked for it because God wanted them to be His peculiar people. Please read Exo 19:3-8 below. Similarly God gave us His laws because He wants us to be His people too. Obviously, God gave us His laws because He wants us to be His people who will think of His laws in our minds and obey His laws with our hearts. Hence, how can the thinking or obeying of His laws cause separation from God, curses, or death instead ?Obviously the law that kills is not the laws of God; the law that kills is only the law that God has deemed as obsolete or old - the law of the old covenant, the law of Moses, the law of stone, or the law of sins and flesh as mentioned by Paul in Romans 7:23-25.

Exo 19:3-8 KJV And Moses went up unto God, and the LORD called unto him out of the mountain, saying, Thus shalt thou say to the house of Jacob, and tell the children of Israel; .. (5) Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine: (6) And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel. (7) And Moses came and called for the elders of the people, and laid before their faces all these words which the LORD commanded him. (8) And all the people answered together, and said, All that the LORD hath spoken we will do. And Moses returned the words of the people unto the LORD.
Heb 8:10-13 KJV For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: .. (12) For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. (13) In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
1Pe 2:9-10 KJV But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: (10) Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.
Tit 2:11-15 KJV For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, (12) Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; (13) Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; (14) Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. (15) These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

Similarly God gave Adam and Eve His command before they asked for it too, because Goad wanted them to be His people. Hence, when Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, they did not put themselves under law of God. Yes, they might be under the law; but correction, they were under the law of sin and death, not the law of God. However, if they had really thought and obeyed the law of God, they would not eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil; they would have eaten from the tree of life instead:

Gen 2:9 KJV And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Rev 22:14 KJV Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

I will tell the radical grace preachers, Obviously, you have confused the people about the law and God's laws again. Christians do not eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil any more. It is because:

Reason 1: The tree of knowledge of good and evil is no longer available to any man
Reason 2: When Christians obey God's laws and commandments, they would eat from the tree of life, not from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Only the sinners or the lawless ones will still want to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil and remain rebellious to God's command.

I will tell them, Yes, Paul did ask the Jews or the Jewish believers not to think of the law (or the Old covenant), but he did not tell them or the sinners to do it on God's laws. He would still teach everyone to think of God's laws and commandments:

Eph 6:1-3 KJV Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. (2) Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise;) (3) That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.
Rom 13:7-11 KJV Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour. (8) Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. (9) For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. (10) Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. (11) And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

Was Paul teaching or telling us to think of God's laws and commandments in his letter above ? You bet. So, I don't see any reason to tell the believers that they will be under the law again if they teach or think of God's laws and commandments.

8. The believers will just need to believe only ?

I am not very sure why most radical grace preachers will stress so much on 'Believe only'. Perhaps, out of ignorance, or perhaps they really think that Christian walk is all about thinking of grace and doing nothing ? However, Paul had taught us so many Bible verses about walking by faith, by grace, and by the Spirit, but none of those Bible verses tell us to do nothing. How can we tell the believers to 'believe only' if we know what Paul preached ? Can you see how many things He told us to do from the following Bible passages:

Rom 6:11-19 KJV Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. (12) Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. (13) Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. (14) For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. (15) What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. (16) Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? (17) But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. (18) Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. (19) I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.
Col 1:10 KJV That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;
2Th 1:11-12 KJV Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power: (12) That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
2Th 2:16-17 KJV Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace, (17) Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.
2Ti 2:17-22 KJV And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; (18) Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some. (19) Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. (20) But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. (21) If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work. (22) Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.
Heb 13:21-22 KJV Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen. (22) And I beseech you, brethren, suffer the word of exhortation: for I have written a letter unto you in few words.
Tit 2:7-15 KJV In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity, (8) Sound speech, that cannot be condemned; that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you. (9) Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them well in all things; not answering again; (10) Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things. (11) For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, (12) Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; (13) Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; (14) Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. (15) These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

They will argue, "Isn't believing right means living right? If we believe right, we will do right. So, we just need to tell people to believe only. Believing right means believing only. There is no need to do anything, no need to keep any laws or commandments, no need to keep confessing or repenting from sins, no need to do good and live godly lives .. If we are under grace, we are righteous and living right without the need to do anything. This is the real gospel that Paul preached. It is called pure grace. Obviously Paul wrote the Bible verses above and told them to do all those things because they did not know grace. Those Bible verses are not for us, they are for the agnostics or the legalistic believers .."
I will tell them, Telling people that all the Bible verses are not for you is just your popular excuse. Today, when rebellious believers do not like certain Bible verses, it is so easy to say that this Bible verse is not for them or that Bible verse is for the agnostic.
Yes, I agree that believing right means living right. But believing right does not mean believing Jesus only or loving Jesus only. Why? It is because

The devil believed and confessed that Jesus was the son of God and had the power to cast them out too. Mar 5:6-9 KJV But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him, (7) And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not. (8) For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit. (9) And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many. Jas 2:18-20 KJV Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. (19) Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. (20) But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
The young man in (Mat 19:16-22), Nicodemus, and all the disciples who saw the multiplication of bread respected and loved Jesus. Some of them had even wanted to make Him king (Joh 6:15). But Jesus said to them that believing in Him, confessing His name, or even loving Him was not enough. The question was: Would they do His words or keep His commandments Mat 7:21-24 KJV Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. (22) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? (23) And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. (24) Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: Joh 14:15 KJV If ye love me, keep my commandments. Luk 6:46-48 KJV And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? (47) Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: (48) He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood (false doctrine) arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.
(Hence, Jesus said clearly that He would not just want us to have right believing, right faith, right miracles, right preaching, or right confession only; he wants us to have right doing with His words too, because right doing would prove that we are His true disciples on the rock of salvation.)

Hence, Jesus has explained it very clearly. Believing right does not mean believing Him only or loving Him only; it means believing Him, loving Him, AND doing all His commandments.

Mat 28:18-20 KJV And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. (19) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: (20) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Hence, I will conclude that Believing right is not believing Jesus only; believing right is believing Jesus AND doing all that He has commanded us. When we believe right, then we will live right.

9. The believers will not need to do any works under grace or under the New covenant ?

If we have just read Tit 2:7-15 above, we would notice that there are so many things Paul would want to teach us. Of course, Paul would not teach the believers to do all these to get salvation, but he did teach the believers to do all these in the churches. Who can dispute with Paul ?

Now, I will tell the radical grace preachers, Yes, the sinners may just believe only, but the believers don't just believe only; they will still need to be taught properly to adorn the doctrine of God in all things - These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority .. see Titus 2:10, 15 above

By the way, I would still think that sinners must not just believe only; they must also repent if they will really change and adorn the doctrine of God after they have believed. Even in repentance, there are still fruits or works worthy of repentance:

Mat 3:7-9 KJV But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? (8) Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: (9) And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
Luk 3:7-8 KJV Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? (8) Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

Hence, in the New covenant, there are no more works of the law, but there are still works of faith and fruits of repentance; and the doctrine, laws, and commandments of God.

No more works of the law - Gal 2:15-16 KJV We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, (16) Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ..
But there is still works of faith - Jas 2:20-24 KJV But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? (21) Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? (22) Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? (23) And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. (24) Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

Obviously, in the covenant by faith or the New covenant, we will still have works for both the sinners and believers:

fruits (or works) of repentance for the sinners and
works of faith for the believers

Repentance, works of faith, and good works in Christ are not considered as the works of the law. Please read the whole chapter of Galatians on the works of the law again.

The works of the law are the works which the Jews and the Pharisees did to justify themselves before God; for example, the law of circumcision, Corban law (Mark 7:11-13), , sacrificial laws, Sabbath laws, and many laws which they used to hide their hypocrisy and lawlessness (Luke 12:1). You will understand what I mean if you read more about 'the law' and its 'law of circumcision' in the gospels, Acts, Romans, Corinthians, and Galatians :

Gentiles should not be forced to live like the Jews - Gal 2:14-15 KJV But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?
Gentiles should not be forced to do the works of the law - Gal 2:15-16 KJV We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, (16) Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. Gal 6:13 KJV For neither they themselves who are circumcised keep the law; but desire to have you circumcised, that they may glory in your flesh.
Gentiles should not be forced to keep the law or to be circumcised - Act 15:5 KJV But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. ..(24) Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment: Rom 2:25-26 KJV For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision. (26) Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?

We, who are the Gentiles by nature, should understand by now that we can never keep 'the law' because we are not the Jews. 'The law' or the works of 'the law' is obviously something which can only be practised by the Jews and the Pharisees; but not by us. However, the Pharisees would try by all means to compel the Gentile believers to keep the law because by doing so, they would glory in the law of their flesh.

Hence, Paul was not against the law of doing good, the law of the Romans, the law of our countries, the Law of the ‘Seven Most Effective Habits’, the law of supply and demand, or the law abiding people; he was only against the law of the Jews and the Pharisees when it was used hypocritically to frustrate the grace of God to glory their flesh. However, for the Jewish believers who were compelled to circumcise themselves, he would not forbid them.

1Co 7:17-20 KJV But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk. And so ordain I in all churches. (18) Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised. (19) Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God. (20) Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called.
Act 16:1-3 KJV Then came he to Derbe and Lystra: and, behold, a certain disciple was there, named Timotheus, the son of a certain woman, which was a Jewess, and believed; but his father was a Greek: (2) Which was well reported of by the brethren that were at Lystra and Iconium. (3) Him would Paul have to go forth with him; and took and circumcised him because of the Jews which were in those quarters: for they knew all that his father was a Greek.

10. The believers must preach grace radically; otherwise people's lives will not be changed ?
I will think that it is wrong to make such assumption. The reason is simple.If we must preach this, we would accuse that all those, who did not preach radical grace have failed to change people's lives, including the Lord and the Apostles. Please be honest, Did Jesus preach radical grace ? No, Jesus preached repentance. In fact, Jesus preached more God's commandments and warnings than we think. Does it mean that His commandments and warnings cannot change people's lives? Of course, it is ridiculous to think so.
Paul did not preach radical grace too. He had probably argued with the Pharisees who thought that Paul had preached lawlessness and radical grace. But Paul was careful to defend himself and proved that he had never preached radical grace.
Radical grace preachers will argue, "No, grace can never be misused even if it is preached radically or lawlessly. Grace is not license to sin. .." I will ask them, What makes you so sure that grace can never be misused. Paul had rebuked the Corinthians for the misuse of tongues. Since his letters to the Corinthians showed that the gift of tongues can be misused by the believers, it shows us that the gift of grace can be misused by the believers too.
Of course, grace is not a license to sin to the repentant sinners; but to unrepentant, it could be license to sin. I can say this because grace is a gift of God like the gift of money, prosperity, riches, and credit card, which can be misused by anyone who has received it. Anyone can misused the gift. The gift itself is not evil but when it is given to the wrong people with the wrong motives, it can be misused.
I will ask the preachers, Do you preach money or prosperity radically? They will probably reply, "No, Of course not. Money is a gift of God. We must tell the people to make good use of it. We don't preach money. But we preach how to get more money, how to prosper, and how to make good use of the money." I will tell them, If you don't preach money radically, you should never preach grace radically too. To the unrepentant, they would welcome anything which is preached radically, whether it is money or grace. It is because when grace is preached radically, very like they will not be asked to repent from their sins. They would then be able to boast about it radically and hypocritically too. That's why John the Baptist and Jesus did not preach radical grace. They preached repentance because they knew that the unrepentant can never receive grace:

Mat 3:7-9 KJV But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? (8) Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: (9) And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
Mat 18:32-34 KJV Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me: (33) Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee? (34) And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.

They will still argue, "However, we realize if we are going to talk about radical grace, it fit. Because radical grace is scandalous. Yes, it makes us uncomfortable, but the mystery of grace is that God loves all the sinners no matter how much they have sinned. If we preach it, the sinners will repent .."
I will tell them, No, sinners who are truly repentant will repent whether you preach grace or the love of God. But if they are hypocritical and unrepentant, they will never repent even if you preach grace, favour, prosperity, money, love, God, Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit, or angels. If you always preach excuses to deprive the people from doing true repentance, you are preaching your own philosophies. There is no mystery of grace in the Bible; but the mystery of lawlessness:

2Th 2:5-13 LITV Do you not remember that I told you these things, I yet being with you? (6) And now you know the thing holding back, for him to be revealed in his time. (7) For the mystery of lawlessness already is working, only he is holding back now, until it comes out of the midst. (8) And then "the Lawless One" will be revealed, "whom" "the Lord" "will consume" "by the spirit of His mouth," and will bring to nought by the brightness of His presence. (9) His coming is according to the working of Satan in all power and miraculous signs and lying wonders, (10) and in all deceit of unrighteousness in those being lost, because they did not receive the love of the truth in order for them to be saved. (11) And because of this, God will send to them a working of error, for them to believe the lie, (12) that all may be judged, those not believing the truth, but who have delighted in unrighteousness. (13) But we ought to thank God always concerning you, brothers, beloved by the Lord, because God chose you from the beginning to salvation in sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth,

11. The believers do not need to hear any God's warnings ?

Radical grace preachers will argue, "Today we are living under grace. It means we can never lose our salvation. We are always blessed. We will prosper, we will succeed, we will have life, we will enjoy, we will .. Why? because God is good. When Jesus open the book of Isaiah, He proclaimed the goodnews and then close it.
Luk 4:17-21 KJV And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written, (18) The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, (19) To preach the acceptable year of the Lord. (20) And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him. (21) And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.
However, many preachers today do not know how to close it. They preach an angry God. They preach God's wrath, vengeance, and judgement. They are not preaching the gospel. They are preaching condemnation.."
I will tell them, Ok, you can preach better if you think that you can preach a better gospel. However, better gospel or better goodnews does not mean that it is the gospel of Jesus Christ. Yes, Jesus did close the book of Isaiah after reading it. But He also started to preach repentance too. Did you tell your believers about it too? Before He will come again, He gave us many warnings and commandments too. Have you missed all these?

Mat 24:44-51 KJV Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. (45) Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? (46) Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. (47) Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. (48) But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; (49) And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; (50) The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, (51) And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 25:11-13 KJV Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. (12) But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not. (13) Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
Mat 25:28-30 KJV Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents. (29) For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. (30) And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 25:44-46 KJV Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? (45) Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. (46) And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

I will tell the radical grace preachers, If the Lord has closed the book of Isaiah to show the acceptable year of the Lord to everyone, it should be celebration, musics, prosperity, and great enjoyment from then onwards for everyone; however, why did He warn His disciples about God's wrath and judgement later? Why did He open the book of Revelation to show us more God's wrath and judgement?

12. The sinners will just need to come as he is to God (without doing any repentance) ?

They will argue, “Do you clean yourself before you take a bath? No. Similarly, you don’t have to use your own efforts to clean yourself before you come to God. Jesus is the bath. He will cleanse you. He will get your life in order for you ... Any effort to do something before coming to God is self-effort .. ”

I will ask them, Sinners are called to repentance before they come before God. So, is repentance self-effort ? If you use the illustration of the bath to ask the sinners to come before God doing nothing, are you implying that all the people who have repented are saved by self-efforts? Of course, repentance could be some kind of 'self-effort' but it is not effort to clean ourselves. It is effort to tell the Lord that we will obey Him and all His commandments, pray to Him, go through the water baptism, walk by the Spirit, turn away from sins, live godly lives, and attend a church. These self-efforts are alright; otherwise, we would have to sit at home, do nothing, turn on the TV, and just listen to the radical grace preaching everyday.

I will tell the radical grace preachers, Of course, we don't clean ourselves before we take a bath. But we will go to the bathroom, and strip ourselves off the dirty clothes, before turning on the tap to let the water clean us. We would then put on the new clothes. Similarly, before we let Jesus clean us, we will also need to go to church or to God, open ourselves to the teaching of repentance, deny ourselves, die to ourselves, carry our cross, and follow Jesus. If we don't do all these, it is like putting our clothes on while turning on the tap. We are just wasting water; it can never clean us while the clothes are still on our bodies. Similarly, we could be abusing the blood of Jesus by counting His blood as an unholy thing and doing despite unto the Spirit of grace, while telling ourselves to do nothing with our sins or to come as we are to God without any repentance.

Heb 10:26-29 KJV For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, (27) But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. (28) He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: (29) Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

Coming to God without doing anything is not the gospel of Jesus Christ; it is the gospel of men. However, Jesus, John the Baptist, and all the Apostles had preached and commanded us to come to God with repentance; not just believing only, doing nothing, or as we are.

Act 17:30-34 KJV And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: (31) Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead. ... (33) So Paul departed from among them. (34) Howbeit certain men clave unto him, and believed: among the which was Dionysius the Areopagite, and a woman named Damaris, and others with them.

Hence, we should never tell the people to do nothing; instead, we should tell the people to come 'prepared' (or repented) before God or before they can be cleansed; otherwise they have not truly repented, followed Jesus, and received salvation:

Mat 16:24-25 KJV Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. (25) For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
Mar 8:34-35 KJV And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. (35) For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.
Luk 9:23-24 KJV And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. (24) For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.
Joh 12:24-26 KJV Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. (25) He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. (26) If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father honour.
Joh 3:5-16 KJV Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God ... (16) That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. (16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (I will ask the radical grace preachers, How do you believe in God? Of course, you believe in Him by believing and doing His words too. If you don't believe or do according to all His words or commands, can you still still tell others that you believe in Him? No, you are deceiving yourselves and others ! By telling people that you believe in Jesus and you would preach other things, you have actually preached your own gospel and promoted yourselves cunningly as the real 'Christ' who has the new gospel.)
1Jn 1:9 KJV If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

If dying to self, denying self, taking up the cross, or rebirth is mentioned four times or repeated clearly in all the four gospels, it means that it is the truth every believer should never miss. Obviously, Jesus command to the disciples and believers to deny themselves, to die to their old selves, to take up their cross, and to follow Him is the baptism of repentance and of Spirit for everyone who follow Him. Hence, I am just puzzled at how radical grace preachers can come up with their 'believe only' salvation doctrine. If Jesus command to go through the baptism of repentance is a confirmed requirement for all the disciples, radical grace promise to just 'believe only' would be a lie; it contradicts the gospel of Jesus Christ and His repentance teaching in the gospel.
Probably some preachers will still question the Lord after hearing His repentance preaching. They may not want to deny themselves and take up the cross. They only want to follow Jesus without taking up the cross. Hence, I am not surprised that there was a man who questioned Jesus about His command to deny himself and take up his cross too.

Mar 10:20-25 KJV And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth. (21) Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me. (22) And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions. (23) And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! (24) And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God! (25) It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Does it mean that Jesus would want all His disciples to sell everything, take up their cross, and follow Him? Yes, if we were there in Israel, Jesus would probably give us the same invitation to be one of His twelve disciples too. The reward would be great because as one of the twelve disciples, we would judge the twelve tribes and reign with Him in the kingdom of God.

Mat 19:23-28 KJV Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. .. (27) Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore? (28) And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Hence, if we were there and we accepted the Lord's invitation to be His twelve disciples, we would definitely be 'destined to reign'. I don't know what is the main reason why Jesus asked the rich man above to sell everything. It could be one of the following:

Jesus saw the potential in him and would like him to be one of His twelve disciples to reign with Him
The man had great possession. So, Jesus wanted to test him.
The man had heard the preaching of repentance from Jesus many times, but he was doubtful if he would need to deny himself, take up his cross, and follow Jesus. Hence, Jesus confirmed it to him again that he would need to do all these, as well as selling his great possession, to make the point stronger and clearer for him because he could be toying between having unrighteous riches of the world and following Jesus Christ.

I tend to believe the third reason because many of us are in that dilemma between having the unrighteous riches and Christ. Our riches may not be unrighteous in our own eyes, but when it is earned without repentance and change of lives, we could have earned it through our own greedy efforts, selfish ways, and indifference to other's needs. Hence, if the Lord wants us to change and be more generous or giving to the poor, the sick, the hungry, the disadvantaged, and the under-privileged, in our work or business dealing with them, can we obey the Lord ?

Mat 25:33-40 KJV And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. (34) Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: (35) For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: (36) Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. (37) Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? (38) When saw we thGET /photos/2011/07/24/thumbs/bf53f33083d, and clothed thee? (39) Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? (40) And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

I can now understand why more and more preachers, especially the rich preachers, would need to preach 'no condemnation' sermon every week. Their bungalows or landed properties are probably opposite or next to the squatter house of someone like 'Lazarus'. They probably saw 'Lazarus' begging at the gate of their house when they drove out in their luxurious sport car. Hence, whenever they read the words of the Lord's, they would be reminded of their 'sins conscience' again and again as the words would cry out to them to repent or do something for the people like 'Lazarus'.

Those words would bring sin conscience to repent, but
they would just dismiss repentance as reminder of sin conscience to more sin or to do sin.

Hence, naturally, as their conscience becomes more and more darkened or suppressed by their own perverted doctrines or efforts, they would find it harder and harder to preach true repentance to themselves and others. Hence, one of the easiest way out is just to preach the 'no condemnation' messages or arguments radically to every sinner, and justify all their followers, including themselves. Psychologically, they may think that it is still a consolation or assurance if there are more people believing in the same doctrine, doing nothing even if the words of the Lord have spoken to them, and living ignorantly and indifferently like the rich man:

Luk 16:19-31 KJV There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: (20) And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, (21) And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. (22) And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; (23) And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. (24) And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. .. (28) For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. (29) Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. (30) And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. (31) And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

13. Law demands but grace supplies?

14. The believers do not need to do all the Lord's commandments ? otherwise, they will mix grace with law and will be under the law ?

I have just said that we must repent and believe the gospel of Jesus Christ. Believing His gospel means doing all the things in His gospel which would include all His teaching and commandments too. However, radical grace preachers will preach otherwise because they want the believers to believe them. They would say, "We cannot tell people to believe all the commandments. Look at the Israelites, they boasted and said, "All the Lord commanded we will do.. " Exo 19:8 KJV And all the people answered together, and said, All that the LORD hath spoken we will do. And Moses returned the words of the people unto the LORD. and you know what happened after that ? They broke all the commandments of God. They murmured, they rebelled, worshipped the golden calf, and died in the wilderness .. Similarly Jesus would not want us to keep all the commandments too. If we do that, we would become like the Pharisees who persecuted the adulterous woman.. Jesus was so angry with the Pharisees for keeping too many God's laws and commandments that He condemned them and asked them, "Mat 5:27-28 KJV Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: (28) But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." Jesus said this to bring them to the end of themselves so that they will know that it is futile to keep all the laws.."
Whenever the radical grace preachers used these two Bible passages to prove that Jesus would not want us to keep God's commandments, I was so amazed that I could not uttered a word. I will tell them, If you do not know the reason why the Israelites worshipped the golden calf and sinned or why Jews lusted for the other women and sinned, please do not give your version of the interpretation. If Bible did not explain it clearly, it does not mean that you can use your lawless thinking to convince the people not to keep any God's commandments.

Exo 19:8 KJV - This Bible passage did not say that the Israelites wanted God's laws and boasted about their love for God's law. It did not show us that because of their boasting, God had to give them the law to kill them. Please read the verses before this Bible verse. God gave them the commandments before they asked for them. Exo 19:6-7 KJV And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel. (7) And Moses came and called for the elders of the people, and laid before their faces all these words which the LORD commanded him.
Mat 5:27-28 KJV - This Bible passage did not say that Jesus was testing the Pharisees or that Jesus was trying to bring everyone to the end of themselves so that they will not need to keep any laws. Please read Matt 5:1-2, Jesus was talking to the disciples, not the Pharisees - Mat 5:1-2 KJV And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: (2) And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,.. Hence, obviously, He would not bring the disciples to the end of themselves so that they will not keep God's commandments, and contradict Himself. His intention here is to tell everyone, including His disciples, that they can never be too righteous to repent
Mat 28:18-20 KJV - I will tell all the radical grace preachers, I know that after your two unsuccessful attempt to twist the Lord's teaching above, you will try to twist the commandment of the Lord again. But before you do that, I would like to see how you can twist another commandment of the Lord in the gospel in: Mat 28:18-20 KJV .. (19) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: (20) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. I will ask them, How can you conclude that all the Lord's commandments and repentance teaching were for the Jews only ? Please think, If the Lord had commanded you to "teach others to observe ALL things whatsoever He has commanded you", do you think that there is a possibility that some or ALL of His teaching could become obsolete ? Of course, no. If He had asked you to teach ALL that He has commanded you, He has indicated strongly to you that ALL His commandments including His repentance teaching can never become obsolete. You have to teach ALL of them without any reservation; in another words, without any addition, deletion, or perversion. This is simple understanding. if you cannot understand His words or simple command, how can you teach others ?

15. The preachers today do not need to preach repentance any more; only grace ?

Radical grace preachers will always say, "Grace will lead people to sin no more or lead them to repentance. So, if we preach grace, we will lead people to repentance. Hence, there is no need to preach repentance. When we preach grace, the people will just repent without any preaching of repentance. Paul teaching is a good example. We have never read Paul's letters telling us to preach repentance or confession of sins. He preach radical grace ..He did not tell them to repent or confess sin; he told them just to receive the forgiveness of God and grace .."
I will ask them, If someone from Sodom and Gomorrha tells you that grace will lead them to repentance and reason it like the way you have reasoned, will you think that the preaching of grace is better than the preaching of repentance ? Do you think that Jonah should change his way of preaching too by explaining to the people of Nineveh that they should listen to God's grace instead of the need to repent ? Probably you may think that John the Baptist and Jesus should have preached grace instead of repentance too.
Unfortunately preaching of the gospel is not based on what you think or what most people like; it is based on what Jesus has commanded us:

Mat 28:19-20 KJV Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: (20) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Luk 24:45-48 KJV Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, (46) And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: (47) And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. (48) And ye are witnesses of these things.

If we still do not understand how to teach all His commandments or how to preach His repentance message, we are not fit to be His preachers. Obviously His command for us to teach ALL that He has commanded us would include His repentance preaching too. The radical grace preachers would argue that Jesus opened the understanding of His disciples not to keep God's commandments. But I will tell them, Please read the whole passage until Luke 24:47. Jesus opened their understanding to know that repentance and remission of sins must be preached in His name to all nations. Do we know how to preach repentance ? Of course, I don't suggest we just preach "Repent, Repent, Repent ..." repetitively in our whole sermon. Neither would I think that repentance preaching is just to preach "Grace, Grace, Grace ..". Of course, there must be preaching of repentance or call to the sinners to repent. Without telling or calling the sinners to repent, it is not preaching of repentance. It could be just preaching of 'revolution 'or changes for the religious.

Will grace lead to repentance? Yes, maybe, I will not deny that it may lead to repentance. But can we use this to accuse those who preach repentance as the law preachers, sins conscience preachers, or condemnation preachers ? No, it would be a false accusation against those who preach repentance. Why? It is because I do believe that preaching of repentance, like preaching of God's love and God's words, can lead to repentance too. If we insist that preaching of repentance is effective and useless, we are not only accusing the repentance preachers today, we are accusing the Lord and all the Apostles, including Paul, as condemnation preachers too. I believe that John the Baptist and Jesus had preached repentance more than what the Bible could record about it. Please look at the multitudes who heard their messages and repented, can you accuse them for preaching repentance ineffectively ?

Now, let us look at Paul's ministry. Many of us may think that Paul was a radical grace preachers. No, most of the believers knew that Paul preached repentance more than anyone. Only the Pharisee misunderstood Paul that he was a 'radical grace preachers' or 'license to sin preachers'. In fact, some of the Pharisees may know that Paul was a godly preacher or sound doctrine preacher, but they just wanted to make false accusation against Paul. Hence, the preaching of 'radical grace' or 'license to sin' was something Paul abhorred and would never accept. - Rom 6:1-18 KJV What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? (2) God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? .. (15) What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. (16) Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? (17) But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. (18) Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
In fact, Paul would never preach grace to the sinners. Instead, he taught grace to the Jewish believers. From his letters in Romans, Galatians, Hebrews, and Corinthians, we know that Paul would only argue and teach about grace to the Jewish believers in the above letters, but he preached repentance to the Gentile sinners. We can see the proof in the book of Acts which mentioned about his preaching to the sinners:

Act 20:20-37 KJV And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house, (21) Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ. .. (28) Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. (29) For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. (30) Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. (31) Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. .. (36) And when he had thus spoken, he kneeled down, and prayed with them all. (37) And they all wept sore, and fell on Paul's neck, and kissed him,
Act 26:19-20 KJV Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision: (20) But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.
Act 17:22-31 KJV Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious. .. (30) And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: (31) Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

I will ask the radical grace preachers, Have you read how Paul preach the gospel of Jesus Christ to the sinners ? Did he preach grace or the too good to be true gospel ? No, he preach repentance, warnings against false prophets, and judgement. Even if we could not find repentance in the letters of Paul, Peter, John, and James, it does not mean that they have not preached any repentance or that preaching of repentance has become obsolete. We still have to look at the gospel of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. The book of Acts has also recorded many instances when all the Apostles preached repentance too.

Mar 6:7-13 KJV And he called unto him the twelve, and began to send them forth by two and two; and gave them power over unclean spirits; .. (10) And he said unto them, In what place soever ye enter into an house, there abide till ye depart from that place. (11) And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city. (12) And they went out, and preached that men should repent. (13) And they cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed them.
Luk 24:47-49 KJV And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. (48) And ye are witnesses of these things. (49) And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.

Can you see in both Bible passages above that power was given to the disciples? Was it to heal the sick, to prosper the sinners, to work wonders, or just to give glory to God ? No, all these were secondary; the main purpose was to preach repentance. It would be blindness if we cannot see the truth. God's preachers should have no excuse at all. If they would still deliberately use Paul's arguments to the Jews or his grace argument against the Jewish law to confuse the sinners and prevent them from listening to the Lord's repentance gospel, they could be leading them to destruction, not to repentance. Obviously, their argument that grace will lead to repentance is only their excuse or strategy to hinder the preaching of repentance. They have done injustice to the sinners who need to repent.

16. The sinners are saved only by the gospel that Paul preached ?

Radical grace preachers has said, "The gospel of grace is based on the gospel of Paul. It is all about grace; and not law. We are saved by grace, especially the radical grace that Paul preached. He said, Where sins abounded, grace abounded even more. However, many preachers and believers misunderstood Paul. They accused Paul for preaching license to sin. Hence, The true gospel of grace must be preached like Paul's gospel, to the extent that everybody misunderstood you. If we don't preach like Paul or preach it like radical grace, we have not preached the gospel.."
I will tell them, I have already said earlier, Paul was a repentance preacher to the Gentile sinners and believers. Only the Jews had misunderstood him as the 'radical grace' preacher or 'license to sin' preacher. If Paul rejected the false accusation from the Pharisees that he was a radical grace preacher or license to sin preacher, how can we think that Paul would like us to preach the gospel until everybody misunderstood us. No, at least, Paul knew that the Gentile sinners and the believers would never misunderstood him, because he always preach repentance, instead of radical grace, to them.
Now, is the gospel of Jesus Christ the gospel of grace ? Yes, it is the gospel of grace because it would require the Jews to move from the law to grace through Jesus Christ. However, it is also the gospel of repentance for the sinners, for both the Jews and Gentiles.

Rom 3:9-10 KJV What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; (10) As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Mat 9:13 KJV But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Hence, how can we limit the gospel of Jesus Christ to the gospel of grace preached by Paul or his grace argument against the law only . How about the gospel of repentance preached by Paul and other Apostles ? Wasn't their gospel the same gospel or the same repentance message from Jesus Christ ? Of course, it does not make sense to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ based on the gospel of Paul when the gospel of Paul is based on words and teaching of Jesus Christ. Hence, we should preach the gospel based on the words and teaching of Jesus Christ only. We will listen to Paul too because we know that Paul had always followed the teaching of Jesus Christ closely. In any case, we must know that the source of the truth is not from Paul; it is from Christ. I would think that it is erroneous to treat Paul like Christ or treat Paul's word as the source of the truth. Some of us may think that Paul was perfect and was almost like God because the Bible had never recorded any weakness or imperfection about Paul. But Paul had confessed that he was like anyone of us who had struggles in the flesh and could sin in the flesh. Hence,he would never think highly about himself and boast that he was better than Peter in every way even though he had rebuked Peter about his discrimination against the Gentiles. If we 'worship' Paul and think that we should preach only 'the gospel of Paul' to replace the gospel of Jesus Christ or make the commandment and the gospel of Jesus Christ of none effect with Paul's grace argument against the Jews, we would have fallen into the trap of the serpent. We have confused ourselves by creating our own gospel based on Paul's argument against the Jews, and miss the truth in the gospel of Jesus Christ.
When I start to hear more and more weird arguments from the radical grace preachers to preach their radical gospel with no condemnation, no judgement, no repentance, no confession of sins, no future sins, no conviction of sins, no warnings, and no laws and commandments, I begin to think that they just want to preach the radical gospel of anything, except the gospel of Jesus Christ which has clear repentance message, confession of sins, warnings, and commandments for all the believers.

Commandments - Joh 15:10 KJV If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. Mat 28:19-20 KJV Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: (20) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Confession of sins - Luk 11:1-4 KJV And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one of his disciples said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples. (2) And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth. (3) Give us day by day our daily bread. (4) And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.
Repentance - Mat 9:13 KJV But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. Luk 24:47 KJV And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
Warnings - Mat 25:10-13 KJV And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. (11) Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. (12) But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not. (13) Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh. Mat 24:42-44 KJV Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. (43) But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. (44) Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

Now, question: How could the radical grace preachers miss all the Bible verses above and convince the people that they should believe only the gospel of grace preached by Paul. Obviously, they have designed and created a ridiculous, perverted, and almost 'fool-proof' doctrine to deceive the people by implying that all the teaching of the Lord on commandment, repentance, confession of sins, and God's warnings have become obsolete and inapplicable to the believers today. But I am just amazed at the blindness of the people when the Bible is so clear about the the Lord's teachings and commandments which can never become obsolete. Well, either the radical grace preachers are too good with their lawless deception, or the believers are just too blind or too lazy to read the Bible themselves. This is a mystery in the end time:

2Th 2:5-17 LITV Do you not remember that I told you these things, I yet being with you? (6) And now you know the thing holding back, for him to be revealed in his time. (7) For the mystery of lawlessness already is working, only he is holding back now, until it comes out of the midst. (8) And then "the Lawless One" will be revealed, "whom" "the Lord" "will consume" "by the spirit of His mouth," and will bring to nought by the brightness of His presence. Isa. 11:4 (9) His coming is according to the working of Satan in all power and miraculous signs and lying wonders, (10) and in all deceit of unrighteousness in those being lost, because they did not receive the love of the truth in order for them to be saved. (11) And because of this, God will send to them a working of error, for them to believe the lie, (12) that all may be judged, those not believing the truth, but who have delighted in unrighteousness. (13) But we ought to thank God always concerning you, brothers, beloved by the Lord, because God chose you from the beginning to salvation in sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth, (14) to which He called you through our gospel, to obtain the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. (15) So, then, brothers, stand firm and strongly hold the teachings you were taught, whether by word or by our letter. (16) But may our Lord Himself, Jesus Christ, and our God and Father, the One having loved us and having given everlasting comfort and good hope by grace, (17) encourage your hearts, and may He establish you in every good word and work.

Can the believers fall into the teaching of lawlessness ? Yes, otherwise Paul would not have told them to (v15) stand firm and strongly hold the teachings you were taught, whether by word or by our letter. Otherwise, Paul would just say, "Repent and relax; believe only ! Repent is just to change your mind. Change your mind from thinking of too many warnings, judgement, and commandments. Change your mind so that you will not do any good word or good work .."

I will tell the radical grace preachers, You always think that your preaching of grace or the goodness of God will lead the people to repentance without any preaching of repentance. Hence, I am not surprised that you will also think that your preaching of grace will also lead them to God's laws, to God's commandments, to confession of sins, to godly living, and to doing good too. But you have missed one more thing - your lawless teaching will also lead them to God's judgement too. Obviously, you are preaching lawless excuses and oxymoron deception. However, I am very curious, Will you be so radical that you will also tell us that your grace preaching will the people to Jesus without any preaching of Jesus too ? Of course, common sense. We all know that without the preaching of Jesus, you cannot lead the people to Jesus.

Similarly, there must be preaching of faith to lead the people to faith, and preaching of repentance to lead the people to repentance too. Otherwise Jesus would not need to tell His disciples to preach repentance, He would just tell them to preach some other things or anything.

Rom 10:13-17 KJV For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. (14) How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? (15) And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! (16) But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? (17) So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Mat 28:19-20 KJV Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: (20) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Luk 24:45-48 KJV Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, (46) And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: (47) And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. (48) And ye are witnesses of these things.

17. The believers today cannot take direct command or warning from God ?

Radical grace preachers will argue, "You have misunderstood us. We have never told people to stop doing good work. We just need to tell them grace. They will do good work automatically. Grace will teach them to do good. We don't have to teach, command, or ask them to do it. Teaching of commandment or thinking of the laws will only make them more rebellious. Look at the Israelites in the wilderness, the moment they thought that God could give them the commandments, they all worshipped the golden fell into sins. No, preaching the word of God in a commanding or instructive tone is the old wine. In the new wine teaching today, we just need to preach grace or the goodness of God. And the goodness of God will lead them to sin no more or to repentance. That's why we don't command, warn, teach, or instruct them to obey, to confess sin, to admit sin, to repent, and to do good. This type of preaching is only good for the Jews or the people under the law. But the people today cannot accept this type of law preaching. They would take it as condemnation. In another words, they cannot take harsh instructions; they can only change if we tell them the message of grace and let the message of grace do the rest of the things in their minds and hearts.. when they believe right.. they will do right .. This is greatest truth in the message of grace .. "
I will tell them, If teaching or thinking of the law of God will make the people more rebellious, why do you still teach from Psalm 1 ? Why do you tell people to read Psalms and meditate on the law of God ? It would be a your hypocritical truth or teaching if you just want to teach Psalm 1 without the real intention to keep any God's laws or commandments in your hearts. How can you turn around so quickly and accuse that the teaching of God's laws and commandments would make the Israelites or the people today more rebellious now?
You may think that you have preached the greatest truth according to your own lawless thinking, but it is not God's truth in the Bible; it is just a new lie similar in nature to the old lie given in the garden of Eden when the promise or the goodness of God was 'preached' without any God's command. The only difference between the old lie and the new lie is that the old lie was preached in the garden of Eden; the new lie is preached in the churches today:

Gen 2:16 KJV And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: Gen 3:4 KJV And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
2Co 11:3-4 KJV But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. (4) For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

I will tell them, So, I guess you would teach that the Lord's commandment to the disciples was obsolete or under the law too.

Mat 28:19-20 KJV Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: (20) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Would you think that the Lord's command to repent is condemnation too?

Mat 4:17 KJV From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

I am also not surprised that you would interpret that all the Christians do not need to confess sins because you can never fall into sin and need to admit sins. You would interpret 1 John 1:9 as a Bible verse which is not applicable to you too:

1Jn 1:8-10 KJV If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. (9) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. (10) If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

However, will you interpret that Paul's command or direct instruction to obey our parents as teaching under the law or condemnation too?

Eph 6:1-4 KJV Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. (2) Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise;) (3) That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth. (4) And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

I guess if you would always interpret God's words with your 'this is not for us or that is not for us' arguments, you would soon conclude that the whole Bible is not for us too. You can even say that Paul's command above is for the agnostic too or that Paul's instructions are only for the rebellious who have already abandoned their parents. You can just say that Paul's teaching on any commandment is not applicable to churches and believers too. You would just tell them to select only the Bible verses that has grace or only the Bible teaching that they like without any command or repentance ..
I will tell them, No wonder, you can preach so well and so beautifully, but you have not only made the word of God none effect, you have made the word and the commandment of Jesus Christ none effect; you have made the gospel of Jesus Christ none effect. You may argue with plenty of Bible logics and 'anointing' to hide your intentions but you have shown clearly to us that you have denied everything that the Lord had preached about God's commandments, repentance, confession of sins, warnings, doing good (parable of the good Samaritan), and godly lives:

1Jn 2:18-29 KJV Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. (19) They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. (20) But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. (21) I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. (22) Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. (23) Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. (24) Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. (25) And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life. (26) These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. (27) But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. (28) And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming. (29) If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.

John told us clearly to abide in Jesus in (v28). Obviously, it is a clear command telling us to abide in His words and teachings too. I will ask the radical grace preachers, If you do not abide in the words and teachings of the Lord, how can you convince us that you abide in the Lord too. No, your denying or changing of the Lord's words and teachings has only proved that you have denied Christ. You will continue to prove that all the rest of the Bible which has commandment or instruction for you are obsolete and under the law. There will come a time, you may even preach the law of God but it is just empty meditation with lots of men's philosophies and excuses to deceive your souls that you are still God's preachers keeping God's laws and commandments:

Psa 1:1-2 KJV Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. (2) But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. (Although these Bible verses tell us to meditate, we must not miss the direct instruction of command not to walk, stand, and sit with the wrong people. Don't you think that God's word is a clear command to do His word too? Can God's word lie to us ?)
Mat 7:15-24 LITV But beware of the false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inside they are plundering wolves. .. (21) Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord, will enter into the kingdom of Heaven, but the ones who do the will of My Father in Heaven. (22) Many will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name do many works of power? (23) And then I will declare to them, I never knew you; "depart from Me, those working lawlessness!" (24) Then everyone who hears these Words from Me, and does them, I will compare him to a wise man who built his house on the rock; (The Lord prophesied that, in the last days, many false prophets will create lawlessness and preach lawlessness. In another words, they will teach doctrines which tell the people to listen to their doctrine instead of doing the word of God. They will keep preaching Jesus and insist that they are God's preachers but ..)
2Ti 3:1-8 KJV This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. (2) For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, (3) Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, (4) Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; (5) Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. (6) For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, (7) Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. (8) Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith....
2Ti 3:12-17 KJV .... Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. (13) But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. (14) But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; (15) And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. (16) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (17) That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
(I will tell the radical grace preachers, Since the word of God here says clearly and teaches directly that All scripture is given for doctrine, for teaching, and for instruction too, will you conclude that this Bible verse is not of grace and will lead people to law-consciousness and condemnation?)

18. What men call balance, God calls it a mixture ?

Have you heard the saying "What men call balance, God calls it a mixture" ? I will tell those who said it, No, God did not say it, you said it. It is absurd for God to tell you that His words, His laws or His commandments cannot be 'mixed' or preached together with grace in the covenant of grace. Do you know that there is law in all God's covenants ? Preaching or teaching God's law and commandment in the covenant of grace is not mixing the law and grace. Please do not lie and confuse the Gentiles with the law of Moses or the law of the Jews unnecessarily. Obviously, you have mixed up Paul's arguments against the law (for the Jews) with the preaching of God's laws (for the Gentiles). Yes, I would think that there should not be any mixture between the Old covenant and New covenant; between the Old wine and the New wine, or between the law of Moses and the law of God and Jesus Christ. Of course, we won't mix the laws of both covenants if we know the teaching of God's laws. Just apply common sense, please. Of course, no churches today would be in their right mind to ask their believers under the New covenant to follow the law of Moses and circumcise themselves. Of course, if they do that, they would be mixing the law and grace.

However, can we accuse any churches of mixing the law with grace if they preach too much God's law and become legalistic ? Of course, this is ridiculous too. Please think, How much teaching or thinking of God's laws will make people legalistic? If thinking or teaching of God's laws will always make them legalistic, Psalm 1, Heb 8:10, Heb 10:16, and probably half of the Bible would have to be removed, because they will remind us of God's laws and commandments. Of course, I do not deny that there are people who are more legalistic than others; for example, the judges, the army generals, the auditors, the health-care inspector, the hospital infection control personnel, the school principals, the disciplinary masters, anti-corruption personnel, the old pastors, crime fighters, .. etc. Yes, they could be more legalistic than many of us because of the nature of their works, their characters, their cultures, and their traditions. But can we accuse them of mixing the law and grace, and criticise them for being too law-conscious in their work or thinking ? Can we therefore say that they need more deliverance than others or that they need to be delivered from 'the law' by listening more to your radical grace preaching ? This is ridiculous. Obviously, they will still have to be 'legalistic' or 'law-conscious' in their work or thinking, no matter how much they have listened to your radical grace preaching. Instead, I will tell them, Stop condemning yourselves if you need to be 'legalistic' or 'law-conscious' to do your job well. Don't be deceived by the error of the lawless. 2Pe 3:17 LITV Then beloved, you knowing beforehand, watch lest being led away by the error of the lawless you fall from your own steadfastness.

If you had an old contract or agreement with someone and you want to set up a new one, you must terminate the old agreement together with all its old terms and conditions. Similarly, if you were a Jew, you must abandon the Old covenant completely, including all its law of sacrifices and ceremonies. However, does it mean that there is no more law in the New covenant? No. Of course, there are still God's laws and commandments in the New covenant or the covenant of grace. God would never call it a mixture if His laws and commandments are preached again with grace or under the covenant of grace. In fact, God would want it to be preached or taught in the New covenant too.

Heb 8:9-13 KJV Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. (10) For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: (11) And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. (12) For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. (13) In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

Have you read the above? It means that God would make sure that His laws and commandments will be remembered and followed more effectively under the New covenant, having known that the Israelites had already failed when they continued not in His Old covenant (v9). This time, His laws and commandments will do better to help the believers to continue in His New covenant. He said, "I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: (v10)". This is the promise of God.

Hence, What radical grace preachers call mixture, I call it God's will !

19. We must preach grace radically until everyone misunderstood us; otherwise we have not preach the gospel ?

I would think that it is nonsense ! The radical grace preachers will argue, "Paul had preached it radically until the Pharisees misunderstood him. They accused Paul for preaching license to sin. Hence, if we preach like Paul, we would be accused by the people too.."

I will tell them, No, Paul did not preach grace radically until everyone misunderstood him. In fact, he had only preached grace radically to the Pharisees. Hence, I would think that only the Pharisees would have misunderstood Paul. In fact, some of them did not misunderstood Paul; they just wanted to accuse Paul purposely. But the sinners and the believers would never misunderstand Paul. Why? It's because Paul would have preached repentance radically to them before they accepted Christ.

Act 20:20-21 KJV And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house, (21) Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.
Act 26:19-22 KJV Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision: (20) But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance. (21) For these causes the Jews caught me in the temple, and went about to kill me. (22) Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come:

I will tell them, You have already disobeyed the Lord when you refused to preach the clear message of repentance. Now, will you go further in your rebellion by accusing the Lord, Paul, and all Apostles that they have not preached the gospel because they have not preached grace as radically as you. You may use many Bible verses to prove that Jesus, Paul, Peter, John, and all the Apostles had all preached grace with your own interpretation. But, when I read the Bible, I have only understood that Jesus and all the disciples had preached repentance (radically) as the gospel.

Mar 1:15 KJV And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
Luk 13:2-7 KJV And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things? (3) I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. (4) Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem? (5) I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. (6) He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none. (7) Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?
Mar 6:12-13 KJV And they went out, and preached that men should repent. (13) And they cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed them.

Act 2:38 KJV Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act 8:22 KJV Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.
Act 17:30 KJV And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

Hence, we are sure that Jesus and the Apostles had preach repentance radically when they called the sinners to repentance. But I have never heard them preaching grace radically to the sinners. Yes, we may say that Jesus had shown radical grace when He healed the sick or fed the hungry, but we cannot say that Jesus had preached grace radically. Hence, I would think that the revolution which tells everyone, "We must all preach grace radically, or else we have not preached the gospel", is not biblical; it could be a subtle false accusation not only against us, but also against the Lord Himself and all the Apostles who preached only repentance (radically).
They will argue, "Yes, the Lord or Paul may not have told us clearly to preach grace radically, but a famous evangelist from the 18th century did tell us to preach it radically. He wrote in his book that we must all preach grace until everyone misunderstood us, or else we have not preached the gospel that Paul preached."
I will ask them, If you cannot understand or follow the 1st century's teaching of the Apostles, how can you follow someone who taught different things in the 18th century. Anything which is not based on the Bible or said clearly in the Bible is still men's speculation. If the speculation is preached with the intention to oppose against the teaching and repentance message of the Lord, it is clearly not from the Lord. Anyway, the gospel that Paul preached is the gospel of repentance. He preached repentance to all the sinners, to both the Jews and Gentiles (Act 26:19-20).
They will still argue, "But I myself have heard it clearly from the Lord in my spirit. He told me to preach grace radically until others misunderstood me. He told me, Son, if you do not preach grace radically, their lives would not be radically changed. He did not tell me to preach any repentance ..."
I will ask them, Will you believe me if I told you that I heard from the Lord in my dreams that He told me not to preach any radical grace too? Of course, you would question me and argue with me that I could have heard from the wrong dreams or wrong spirit. You would insist that I was wrong just because what I heard contradicted yours. Now, if we are in a world where everyone has their own dreams and visions, who should we listen to ? That's why we should always go back to the Bible and find out if the preachers today have really heard from the Lord, or from their own dreams or perverted spirits.

20. The sinners should be delivered from the law, not lawlessness or sin ?

Radical grace preachers would give people of the world a wrong impression that they were under the law of Moses and therefore they should only repent from the law, instead of repenting from their lawlessness or sins.
1Jn 3:3-4 LITV And everyone having this hope on Him purifies himself even as that One is pure. (4) Everyone practicing sin also practices lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.
Radical grace doctrine would confuse all the sinners against the law. It would try to convince them that Paul's argument with the Jews or Jewish believers in Romans, Galatians, or Corinthians are still applicable to the Gentiles, thereby giving them the false impression that they should be wary of all kinds of laws including God's commandments too. Obviously only the Jews who were under the law would need to be delivered from the law, but the sinners should be delivered from sins or lawlessness. However, most of the people today would love to hear the radical grace gospel because it would only keep telling them to reject the law or ask them to repent from the law. However, please think, Which one is easier for the sinners, To repent from the law of Moses which they've never practised or to repent from a sin which they have been practising for years?. Of course, most sinners would choose to repent from the law, while deceiving themselves about their sins or having their conscience 'seared with a hot iron' (1Tim 4:2). Hence, they have not truly repented, but they have only come up with many arguments and excuses for themselves to reject all God's laws and commandments.
That's why the gospel of the 'radical grace' may seem to be more attractive to many people, especially the sinners and the unrepentant today. The radical grace preachers will boast that their gospel can 'change' (prosper) the lives of many people, that their own 'God' is too good to be true, and that their own 'God' has no more do's and don'ts for them. They would then convince us that we need to be delivered from the churches who have too many do's and don'ts, and falsely accuse them as the churches of 'the law' and 'old wine'. However, please think, Can the churches preach the right gospel if they have no more do's and don'ts for the people ? Can they still be the churches of God if they do not preach all God's commandments or all that Jesus commanded them?

Mat 28:16-20 KJV Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. (17) And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. (18) And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. (19) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: (20) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
2Co 11:3-4 KJV But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. (4) For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

21. God told us to meditate on His grace instead of on His words and commandments?

Some preachers could have given us the wrong impression intentionally or unintentionally when they said that God told them to preach and meditate only on grace or the word of grace; instead of on His words and commandments. I will tell them, This is not true. God has never told us to meditate only on grace, but He did tell us clearly to meditate on His words and commandments instead. Please look at Psalm 1 again.

Psa 1:1-2 KJV Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. (2) But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. (Although these Bible verses tell us to meditate, we must not miss the direct instruction of command not to walk, stand, and sit with the wrong people. Don't you think that these words are clear commands to do His word ?)

Please be honest with the word of God. Can you change the words or psycho your believers to think that Psalm 1 is just a meditation on grace? You may be able to quote many verses to interpret it as a grace meditation. But very likely you could have twisted, substituted, and cross out the word of God with your own words or oxymoron arguments as below:

Psa 1:1-2 KJV Blessed is the man that ~~walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly~~ walk in grace, ~~nor standeth in the way of sinners~~ stand in grace, ~~nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful~~ and sit in grace. (2) But his delight is in the ~~law~~ word of the LORD; and in his ~~law~~ word of grace doth he meditate day and night.

I don't think changing or crossing out the word of God or the law of God is the way to convince the people to meditate only on grace or promises. It would be deceits in teaching errors. If you think that you could escape questioning because you preached only Psalm 1, you are wrong. The Bible told us to speak Psalms and hymns to one another; it means that we must also preach Psalms 1,2,3, .. and Psalms 119 to one another too. It means that the law of God and the delight of it in Psalm 119 is applicable to all the believers too:

Eph 5:19-21 KJV Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord; (20) Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ; (21) Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
Col 3:16-20 KJV Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. (17) And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him. (18) Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord. (19) Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them. (20) Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.
Psa 119:9-16 KJV BETH. Wherewithal shall a young man cleanse his way? by taking heed thereto according to thy word. (10) With my whole heart have I sought thee: O let me not wander from thy commandments. (11) Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee. (12) Blessed art thou, O LORD: teach me thy statutes. (13) With my lips have I declared all the judgments of thy mouth. (14) I have rejoiced in the way of thy testimonies, as much as in all riches. (15) I will meditate in thy precepts, and have respect unto thy ways. (16) I will delight myself in thy statutes: I will not forget thy word.

Can you see the law and commandment of God for the believers from the word of God ? Hence, speaking Psalms to one another is speaking, confessing, preaching, or teaching the word of God and the commandment of God too. Can you twist it in anyway you like and make it of none effect? No. I don't think so; only Satan or the Pharisees could do it convincingly and people would still think that they are great preachers:

2Co 11:14-15 KJV And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. (15) Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
Mar 7:11-13 KJV But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free. (12) And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother; (13) Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
Mat 15:5-6 KJV But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; (6) And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.

22. God's law will give us the 'demanding feeling' which will make us sin more psychologically ?

This error is serious. It is a lie. How can God's law be preached as demand which will give people the intention to sin more, and therefore they can only think or meditate more on grace instead? The radical grace preachers will argue, "Why not? The Lord told me that His law demands but grace supplies. He told me that the essence of the law is demand. As long as there is the essence of the law in our mind, we are under the law even if we do not think of the law of Moses. And this will put us under the bondage of demand. Instead of supply, it keeps putting its demand on us until we have the poverty mentality. Hence, we can never prosper with this law mentality or with the law in our minds. Now, which one will you meditate more if you were me ? Of course, grace. The law kills. It condemns you. It cannot prosper you. But grace supplies, it prospers .."
I will ask them, How will you interpret this when God said that He will put His laws in your minds? Isn't it a law mentality when His laws are in your minds ?
Heb 10:16 KJV This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
Yes, your 'God' might tell you to preach His law as demand or the negative law mentality, but my Bible did not tell me so. When I read Psalm 1, I heard God say to me that I would delight in His law or meditate on his instructions not to walk, stand, or sit in the seat of the scornful. I could still see His do's and don'ts in the word. Hence, if I were you, I would not preach Psalm 1 which tells people to meditate on the law of God. I would not confuse them to meditate on the law and then on grace. I would just ask them to use the correction fluid to blank off all 'the law' and replace it with 'grace'. If I have used up all my correction fluid or liquid marks, I would ask them to imagine all 'the laws' or 'the commandments' of God in the Psalms or in the gospel of Jesus Christ as 'grace'. If this still cannot help, I would simply tell all them to chuck the Bible which is filled with demands and darkness, and tell them to use my 'grace-marked' Bible instead. Of course, this is ridiculous. How can we think of God's law as darkness when it is is light; and God's commandments as evil when it is the lamp on our paths (see this link to another post). Only the devil will preach God's laws using his 'correction marks' on the minds of the people. He had deceived Eve and so, he would deceive the churches that lawlessness will supply and open their eyes to more life and prosperity too under his 'new age' covenant. No, it is not God's covenant; it is a deception when it is preached deliberately to remove all God's laws from the covenant (see this video link..):

Rev 14:9-12 KJV And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, .. (11) And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. (12) Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Gen 3:4-6 KJV And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: (5) For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. (6) And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

When will this happen? The Bible has prophesied that you will see how the gospel would be preached to every nation and to every tongue on that day. When you see this, probably the end is near. Probably social media has made it possible and made it fulfilled more quickly or more effortlessly now.

Rev 14:6-7 KJV And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, (7) Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
Mat 24:14-15 KJV And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. (15) When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

Radical grace preachers will argue, "But the first miracle of Moses was turning water into blood, resulting in death, the first miracle of grace was turning water into wine, resulting in life and celebration. The law demands righteousness from the bankrupt men; grace supplies righteousness .."I will tell them, Yes, You can never demand or tell the sinner to keep God's commandments. It is because the sinners can never know God or keep God's laws. That's why Jesus would only ask the sinners to repent. They can only receive grace from God. They have no righteousness of whatsoever. But if they have been made righteous by God, don't you think that they can now do God's righteousness. Do you think that they can still use your excuses to argue with God and say that they can only receive grace forever ? No. If they claimed that they had been made righteous by Christ but they would still want to reject God's laws and commandments, they have not truly repented. They have not received God's righteousness yet. Your illustration of the miracle of Moses as God's laws is deliberately designed to confuse the non-Jews that God's laws is like the law of Moses or the Old covenant which has become obsolete. It is not only a wrong application of the Old Testament to remove God's laws from the hearts of the people; it is a deception to preach 'lawless grace' to the people. I am sure this 'lawless grace' does not supply righteousness.

23. The believers who think of grace will be more gracious than those who think of laws ?

I am not a fanatic for the law or grace. Hence, when I heard preachers of grace or laws arguing that their believers who think of grace or laws are better than the other, I would think that they are either radical grace preachers or radical law preachers who are out of their minds. It is ridiculous to make claims against either laws or grace simply based on what we think or what we like. It must be supported by clear Bible verses, not our twisted Bible interpretation.

There are Bible examples on those who fell and became hypocrites because they thought of more laws, but there are also those who thought and asked for more grace too. Hence, if we are so radical or so short-sighted that we cannot think clearly, we will lead others astray. While the Pharisees had thought more of the laws and became hypocrites, there were also those who had asked for more of grace and still behaved like a hypocrite too. There is no need to fight until both the law and grace of God become so 'cheap' that it can no longer be the grace or the law of God.

Mat 18:26-34 KJV The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. (27) Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt. (28) But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest. (29) And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. (30) And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt. (31) So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done. (32) Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me: (33) Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee? (34) And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.

Obviously, the servant above had asked for more grace, but he did not become a better servant. He became a hypocrite.

Can we conclude that grace has caused the servant above to sin? No. It is ridiculous. We can only conclude that thinking or asking for more grace may not always make us a better believer automatically. We cannot conclude that grace has caused the servant above to sin..
Neither can we conclude that law could cause the Pharisees to sin. No, the Pharisees became hypocrites not because of the laws; they became hypocrites because of their greeds, their love for themselves, their love for sinful ambitions, or their sins.

Similarly, I would not conclude that thinking or teaching of more grace will cause people to sin. Neither would I conclude that thinking or teaching of more laws will make people sin. Hence, we will not preach laws or grace radically and boast that only our gospel is better because we preached more on laws or more on grace. Instead, we let the Lord judge whether we have preached well. Of course, He would judge us based on what He had taught us or commanded us. We can also judge those who claim that they are from Him by their fruits and find out if what they did tally with what they preached. If they confessed that they know the Lord; but preached their own things, they are fruitless preachers.

Mat 28:19-20 KJV Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: (20) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Mat 7:1-5 KJV Judge not, that ye be not judged. (2) For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. .. (5) Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye ... (15) Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. (16) Ye shall know them by their fruits. .. (20) Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. (21) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. (22) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? (23) And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. (24) Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
Luk 6:46-48 KJV And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? (47) Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: (48) He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood (false doctrine) arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. (Hence, Jesus said clearly that He would not just want us to have right believing, right faith, right miracles, right preaching, or right confession only; he wants us to have right doing with His words too, because right doing would prove that we are His true disciples on the rock of salvation.)
Jud 1:10-13 KJV But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves. (11) Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. (12) These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; (13) Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

I will tell the radical grace preachers, Yes, the Pharisees were hypocrites because they were self-righteous and they accused all others for not thinking of their laws or thinking like them. But while complaining that the Pharisees were radical accusers against the sinners, do you accuse others for not thinking like you too? If you preach radical messages accusing all God's preachers just because they disagree with you or because they think of the law of God instead, aren't you behaving like the Pharisees who accused others for not thinking like them?

24. The believers and sinners would be under the law if they do not think enough of grace?

Of course, this is ridiculous. If we could be under the law just because we do not think of grace or think too much of laws, the problem of the whole world would be the law. The whole world would need to be delivered from the law instead of from sins. Jesus and all the Apostles would have to metanoia or repent from preaching too much repentance. Jesus should have called the sinners to repent from the law instead of repentance from sins. Don't you find it weird to ask the sinners to repent from the law? Of course, this is ridiculous.
The world is under sin, not under the law. Only the Jews were under the law because they were given the law of Moses. In other words, they were under the Old covenant. It is not possible for the sinners or the believers to be under the law just because they think of laws. Of course, thinking of the law of our countries, the company laws, the internet laws, or the law of good and evil will not put us under the law. Radical grace preachers will ask, "How about the religious laws or the general laws which the non believers used to justify themselves before God?" I will ask them, Are those laws given by God for them to follow? No, God has not given them any laws as far as we know. They may have their own 'laws' but they are totally. They do not know God or God's laws. Why? It's because they are under sin. That's why Jesus would never ask the sinners, especially the Gentile sinners to keep God's commandments. He asked all the sinner to repent first and believe.
Mar 1:14-15 KJV Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, (15) And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
After they have believed and become His disciples or could serve as God's servants, Jesus would teach them to do the word and the will of God.

Joh 14:15 KJV If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Joh 15:10-14 KJV If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. .. (12) This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. (13) Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. (14) Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
Mat 28:19-20 KJV Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: (20) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Mat 7:15-24 KJV Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. (16) Ye shall know them by their fruits. .. (20) Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. (21) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. (22) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? (23) And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. (24) Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

They will argue, "We believe that we are the sons, not servants. So, these teachings from the Lord are not for us. They were for those who were under the law. We are under grace. That's why we are very sad to know that many Christians today would still have this law mentality. They think that they are still God's servants when they should be God's sons and enjoy free grace. That's why we would preach that the believers could be under the law too .. "
I will ask them, If the sinners can never be under the law just because they think that they need to obey many laws like their country laws, company laws, school laws, family 'laws', or traffic laws, do you think that Christians can be under the law just because they think of these laws too? No, this is ridiculous. However, if Christians can become worst than the sinners because they now obey more laws from the Lord on how to serve God and to do good, something is wrong with your judgement. How can the Christians be under the law because they become more obedient or obey more God's laws after they have believed in Christ. If it is possible for Christians to be under the law just because they think of more laws or do more God's laws, the following Bible verses should be chucked into the sea:

Heb 8:10 KJV For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Heb 10:16-17 KJV This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; (17) And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

Hence, I will think that the sinners and believers can never be under the law even though they may be very legalistic. They are under the only if they keep the law and believe in the law for their righteousness like the Pharisees:
Act 15:5 KJV But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
Act 15:24 KJV Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:
Rom 2:25 KJV For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.
Gal 6:13 KJV For neither they themselves who are circumcised keep the law; but desire to have you circumcised, that they may glory in your flesh.
I will tell the radical grace preachers, if you still cannot see the law above as the Jewish law, the law of Moses, or the law of circumcision, you should not preach grace; otherwise you will confuse everyone to think that they have the same problem with the law of their countries, their laws to do good to the poor, or their laws to protect the needy, the under-privilege, and the disadvantaged, .. Wait up boys ! Obviously, the Apostles and Paul were not against keeping the commandments of God; they were against keeping the law of the Old covenant and circumcision !

Lawlessness will destroy our clear thinking

and our society !

25. The believers should never think of any law because law kills?

It seems right when they quoted the following Bible verses to warn the believers to think of nothing but only Jesus and the grace of God. But do we do it because God's laws kill ?

2Co 3:6-7 KJV Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. (7) But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

It is absurd to conclude that all God's laws are the 'killers' based on these Bible verses. If you read the Bible verses again, you will know that it did not refer to God's laws or all the laws; it referred to the law which is the old testament, the law of stone, or the law of Moses. If we read the whole chapter, it will become clearer to us that Paul was talking about the old testament.

2Co 3:13-15 KJV And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: (14) But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. (15) But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.

Now, if Paul said that the old covenant or the law of the old covenant killed, did he said that the law of the new covenant will kill also? No. If only the law of the old covenant kills, we should never tell people that all the laws kill or all God's laws kill too. Obviously, God's laws will never kill a believer; it may judge the sinners and the false prophets. Otherwise, God will never give His laws to us or to His people:

Heb 8:10 KJV For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Mat 19:17 KJV And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Rev 22:14 KJV Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

26. The believers will not need any teaching because Jesus Himself or grace will teach them ?

The Bible text they have taken for their stand on no teaching of God's laws and commandments is from:

Heb 8:10-11 KJV For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: (11) And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

Hence, They claimed that based on these Bible verses, there is no need to teach anything to the believers.. When they were asked to think again before making the rash conclusion, they would say, "Oh, of course, we will still teach prosperity, grace, love, and the name of the Lord; but, since there is no more do's and don'ts in grace, do we still need to teach do's and don'ts or God's laws to the people? No. Moreover, if God's laws are in our hearts now, we do not need to teach them. All of us will know the laws of God .."
I will ask them, Who want to teach do's and don'ts in grace. Of course, there is no do's and don'ts in grace, but it does not mean that there is no do's and don'ts in a the gospel or in the believers. Please read your Bible again. Did God say that there is no need to teach God's laws and commandments? Can you find any Bible verses which say so? Obviously, the Bible verses which you used from Heb 8:10-11 has been quoted out of its context. When God put His laws in our minds and hearts, it means that He would still get His preachers to teach His people God's laws and commandments. On the other hands, He would not tell His preachers to teach them saying "Know the Lord, know the Lord" because everyone will how how good God is or how gracious He is. But we will still need God's preachers or the Apostles to teach us, otherwise we are not His people.

Rom 10:14-15 KJV How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? (15) And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
Eph 6:1-3 KJV Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. (2) Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise;) (3) That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.
Mat 5:18-19 KJV For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. (19) Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 28:19-20 KJV Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: (20) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

See video 'Who can teach?'

27. The believers will now preach the gospel of Paul instead of the gospel of Jesus Christ?

I will ask the radical grace preachers, Can you read the Bible verses above again, especially Mat 28:19-20:

Mat 28:19-20 KJV Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: (20) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Did Jesus tell His disciples that He Himself would teach all the believers? No, the Lord said it very clearly that He would send His disciples to teach them. But what were they supposed to teach the believers? Please read (v20) again. He said it very clearly, "Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you". In another words, He told them to teach all His commandments, all His teachings, and all His words in the Gospel of Matthew, Luke, Mark, and John. Hence, How can we say that all the commandments of Jesus Christ or part of His teaching in the gospel has become obsolete or was only for those who were under the law? How can we say that we should now teach only the 'pure gospel or 'pure grace' that Paul preached which has no more teaching of God's laws or commandments? No, the gospel that we preached is not the gospel that Paul preached. It must be the gospel that Jesus preached; otherwise, it is not the gospel for us. Please do not be deceived, When Paul preached the gospel to the sinners, he did not preach his own gospel; he would still have to obey the Lord to preach the gospel that Jesus preached which is the gospel of repentance for both the Jews and the Gentiles.

Act 20:20-21 KJV And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house, (21) Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.
Act 26:19-20 KJV Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision: (20) But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.
Mar 1:15 KJV And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

You may not agree with me. But I find it so clear when I read the Bible. Paul would always preach the gospel of repentance to all the sinners, to both the Jews and the Greeks. But when he preached to the stubborn Jewish believers who would still want to be under the law, he would preach grace or the doctrine of new covenant to them. Why must Paul do this? Of course, this is common sense. The Jews who had the law would never accept the gospel of Jesus Christ or the new covenant unless they were willing to give up the law or the old covenant. You can read about it in all his letters to the Jewish believers in Rome, Corinthians, Galatia, and 'Hebrew' cities. (Slide 16 of this video "Has grace been misunderstood.." has the detailed explanation.)

28. The believers will never be rebuked or disciplined by the Lord?

They will argue, "The Lord and the Holy Spirit will never rebuke you. He will only say good things about you even if you fall or sin. He can never and will never convict you of any sins because we have been made righteous and He is a faithful God. Please think, If the Lord would not rebuke any sinners but heal them and eat with them, do you think that He will rebuke us who are His disciples? No, He loved us too much to rebuke us, said harsh words against our wrongdoings, or convict us of our sins. No, never. He would sent the Holy Spirit to convict us of righteousness instead."
I have problem believe their words because it contradicts the words of the Lord in the following Bible verses:

Heb 12:5-12 KJV And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: (6) For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. (7) If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? (8) But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. (9) Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? (10) For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. (11) Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby. (12) Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees;
Rev 3:15-20 KJV .. (17) Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: (18) I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. (19) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. (20) Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

The Lord's words are so clear. He will rebuke, chasten, and encouraged His churches and His believers to be zealous. He would give them the grace to repent too. However, He could never chasten the unrepentant and the false prophets. He could only judge them because they would refuse to be chastened by Him. Very likely, they could have created 'another Jesus' in their hearts. They would follow 'Him' because He has no commandments for them and will never chasten them. They may think that 'He' is grace; but they may never realise that 'He' is actually 'lawlessness'.

2Co 11:2-4 KJV For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. (3) But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. (4) For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

29. The believers can never be convicted of sins by the Holy Spirit?
If the believers cannot be convicted by the Holy Spirit, they are not true believers. True believers will be convicted by the Lord when he sins. They will argue, "No, the believers can never sin. Hence, they can never be convicted of sins by the Holy Spirit...Based on John16:8-11 the Holy Spirit can only convict the believers of righteousness.. He will never record your sins and remind you of it.. to make you feel guilty or sin conscious.. No, He will assure you that you are always righteous even if you have sins or have sinned .. If you feel guilty, you know that it is from the evil spirit .."
I will tell them, John16:8-11 should not be the basis to reject the conviction of the Holy Spirit. (Slide 11 of this video "Has grace been misunderstood.." has the detailed explanation.)

30. Under the law, all sinners must repent; but under grace, God must forgive ?
They will say, "In the past, the sinners were told that they must repent and do many things in order to be saved. But under grace, we are told to do nothing. There is no more do's and don'ts. No more keeping the laws and commandments. When we do, God rest. When we rest, God does. So, what shall we do? We do nothing. However, the churches have reversed it. They tell the people to do do do.. , do good get good, do bad get beat.. this is teaching of the laws.. The churches has put on a reversed gear to go back to the law .. Many churches told us, "If you obey God's law, you will be blessed. But if you disobey Him, you will be cursed." This is not the teaching of Paul or the gospel of grace. This is false teaching.. This is teaching from the pits of hell ..."

I will tell them, What ? Repentance was a teaching under the law? No. Your argument against repentance and God's laws is not the teaching of Paul; neither is it the teaching of Jesus Christ. Paul would never argue against repentance and keeping God's commandments. Paul had only argued against the law of Moses or the old covenant, not the laws of God, commandments, or repentance. If there is no keeping of God's commandments, it is not the gospel of Jesus Christ. If there is no keeping of God's commandments, Jesus Christ would be a liar because He told all His disciples to keep His commandments and God's commandments. Joh 14:15 KJV If ye love me, keep my commandments. Only the devil will argue and deceive the people that obedience to God and God's laws will bring curses and death. Gen 3:4-5 KJV And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: (5) For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

They will argue, "But why must we keep God's commandments if we are under grace. Paul said that if you are under grace, you are no more under the law to do any laws.." I will tell them, That's not what Jesus said. He said, If you loves Him, you will keep His commandments. Hence, you do not keep His commandments or have the intention to keep God's commandments, you are not under grace. You are not His disicples.

Joh 15:7-10 KJV If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. (8) Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples. (9) As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. (10) If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

They will argue, "How could it be? Paul said if you are under grace you are no more under the law to do any laws.." I will ask them, Did Paul say it? No, Paul was referring to the law of Moses or the Old covenant with the Jews; not God's laws and commandments. Paul told the Jewish believers that if they were under grace, they should not keep the law anymore. However, Paul would never tell us or the sinners to do the same thing because we don't have the old covenant from God. Instead Paul would just tell us to repent and believe in all the teaching and the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Mar 1:14-15 KJV Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, (15) And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
Mat 28:19-20 KJV Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: (20) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Act 26:19-20 KJV Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision: (20) But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

In fact, Paul did not tell us to stop after telling us and the sinners to repent and believe, he told us to keep God's commandments too

Eph 6:1-3 KJV Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. (2) Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise;) (3) That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.

Hence, we should tell the sinners that they must still repent and believe. But as God's believers, there would still be teaching and obedience of God's commandments. Otherwise it is not the gospel of Jesus Christ; but the gospel of men, the gospel of Satan, gospel of 'radical grace', or even the gospel of 'Paul' which is deceitfully preached to remove God's laws and commandments..

Hence, I will never say:

Under the law, all sinners must repent; but under grace, God must forgive

I will correct it and say:

Under the law or grace, both the Jews and sinners must repent and obey God's laws and commandments; God is under no obligation to forgive us if we are rebellious

(The difference between the law and grace is: 'The law' is the old covenant which has become obsolete. We are now under grace which is the new covenant with 'new' laws and commandments through Christ.)

31. The believers can be taught better by radical 'grace' than by God's commandments?

I will ask them, "What? Did you say it or the Lord say it ?" They will say, "Of course, The Lord said it. He said it to me in the Spirit. He told me that He is grace and He can teach better than the law. Therefore, we can say that grace can teach better than the law too. This is the wisdom I received from God.. I was so thankful to Him for showing this to me ..and confirmed it with His words in Tit 2:11-12 I believe I have received not only favour but great anointing to interpret His words .."

I will tell them, This is not great anointing; this is not... Do you think that Jesus would contradict Himself when He told us to keep God's commandments and to live by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God?

Mat 4:3-4 KJV And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread. (4) But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Jesus would never tell you that grace can teach better than God's laws. He would never preach like you or like an oxymoron preacher. That's why I prefer to hear from Him, from His words, from God's laws, and commandments instead of your radical grace doctrine. God's command and principle is very simple and clear. It won't confuse us with many philosophies which will make the word of God of none effect. I hope you will not become so confused that you will create philosophies similar to the Pharisees':

Mar 7:10-13 KJV For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death: (11) But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free. (12) And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother; (13) Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

They will argue, "But did you read Tit 2:11-12 ? He confirmed it with the following Bible verses. Grace can teach us: Tit 2:11-12 KJV For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, (12) Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

I will tell them, Do you always quote and interpret Bible verses narrowly without referring to more Bible verses? Why don't you look at a few more Bible verses above it before concluding that grace can teach better than God's laws ?

Tit 2:1-12 KJV But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine: (2) That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience. (3) The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; (4) That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, (5) To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed .. (10) Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things. (11) For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, (12) Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

Yes, I won't deny that Jesus can teach, grace can teach, God can teach, Holy Spirit can teach.. but does it mean that we cannot teach, God's law cannot teach, or sound doctrine cannot teach? No, Paul said, "But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine: !" He said, Teach sound doctrine, and sound doctrine will come to teach us too ..

32. You are more favoured by God if you have favours?

33. We have to preach grace radically or God radically ?
Someone said in the YouTube, "The sad thing is that we have to put radical in front of the gospel message to try to overpower pharisees such as yourself, oh and the only commandment jesus preached was love,.."
We will tell them, To overpower us at the expense of preaching true grace? This is sad. By putting "radical" in front of "grace", "radical" become the focus, not "grace".
God is already good enough for us. But something would be wrong if we have to preach a 'radical' God so that the sinners will know the goodness of God.
Similarly, God's grace is already radical enough. We don't have to preach it like it is radical grace or license to sin. I believe that Paul had never preached it. He said, God forbid (Rom_6:1-2), In fact, he always preached against sin.

Rom 6:12 KJV Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

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