Thursday 6 March 2014

What's the difference between prosperity preachers and radical grace preachers?

What is the difference between prosperity preachers and radical grace preachers?
There are many differences ! However, they are the same to me. Their focus is still on prosperity even though they preach Jesus Christ or tell people to 'seek ye first the kingdom of God'.
  • Prosperity preachers would tell us that they prosper because they give; whilst radical grace preachers would reverse it and say that they give because they prosper.
  • The prosperity preachers would say honestly that they preach prosperity; whilst the radical grace preachers would deny it and say that they preach health and wealth instead.
  • The prosperity preachers would tell people to do something to prosper like, sowing seeds, working hard, and harvesting the blessings, whilst the radical grace preachers would say that prosperity is an effortless done deal for all their faithful believers.  
  • The prosperity preachers would be proud to collect wealth from the believers through tithes and offering; whilst the radical grace preachers would boast that they are the 'anointed' who can transfer the wealth of the world to the churches. I would think, What's the difference? Both collect  wealth from their believers: One said that he collected it from the believers; the other collected it from the believers in the world.
  • The prosperity preachers would tell us how many millionaires or rich men they have in the churches; whilst the radical grace preachers would boast that they are the most favored or richest people in the world. One would boast about their money; the other would boast about their buildings. However, both would aspire to reign like kings or princes and tell people to emulate them.   
  • Both may preach Matt 6:33 differently, but both would focus on "all theses things which shall be added unto you": Mat 6:33 KJV  But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. They would interpret that "all these things which shall be added unto you" are riches, and therefore, Jesus would want all the preachers to preach riches to the people.
  • Both may preach different number of 'cash cows' which can prosper the people, help them to invest better, and magically cause favors or 'gold' to rest upon all their businesses, but they could be 'golden calves' which will take away the focus of the people from God:
  1. Luk 16:13-14 KJV  No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.  (14)  And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him.
  2. Luk 12:1 KJV  In the mean time, when there were gathered together an innumerable multitude of people, insomuch that they trode one upon another, he began to say unto his disciples first of all, Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. (Jesus warned us about the Pharisees not because they do and teach too many God's laws but because they were greedy hypocrites who always lied and taught their own laws to please and deceive the people. They preached God and mammon. They preached the mixture.) 
  3. 1Ki 12:26-33 KJV  And Jeroboam said in his heart, Now shall the kingdom return to the house of David:  (27)  If this people go up to do sacrifice in the house of the LORD at Jerusalem, then shall the heart of this people turn again unto their lord, even unto Rehoboam king of Judah, and they shall kill me, and go again to Rehoboam king of Judah.  (28)  Whereupon the king took counsel, and made two calves of gold, and said unto them, It is too much for you to go up to Jerusalem: behold thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.  (29)  And he set the one in Bethel, and the other put he in Dan.  (30)  And this thing became a sin: for the people went to worship before the one, even unto Dan.  (31)  And he made an house of high places, and made priests of the lowest of the people, which were not of the sons of Levi.  (32)  And Jeroboam ordained a feast in the eighth month, on the fifteenth day of the month, like unto the feast that is in Judah, and he offered upon the altar. So did he in Bethel, sacrificing unto the calves that he had made: and he placed in Bethel the priests of the high places which he had made.  (33)  So he offered upon the altar which he had made in Bethel the fifteenth day of the eighth month, even in the month which he had devised of his own heart; and ordained a feast unto the children of Israel: and he offered upon the altar, and burnt incense.

God's preachers will never preach prosperity as God and God as prosperity (vice versa)
God's preachers will never preach prosperity as the Gospel and the Gospel as prosperity too. However, many will argue, "How can you say that we preach mixture when we preach God and prosperity or God and wealth? It can never be mixture even if we preach God as wealth or God as grace, or vice versa. Those who preach the mixture are those who preach the law with grace. You said that no one can preach the mixture in your previous post, but how you accuse us for preaching the mixture now?"
I will tell them, Yes, you are right. I did tell the people in my previous post that preaching of repentance and grace (or preaching of laws and grace) can never be mixture; but it can be like bread and butter. Why? The reason is very simple: Jesus and Paul still preached God's laws and commandments and grace in the New Testament; but they would never mix God and prosperity in the teaching of  New Testament doctrine. In fact, Jesus had made it very clear to the disciples that they must have clear and focused objectives when preaching or serving in the kingdom of God:
  • Luk 16:13-14 KJV  No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.  (14)  And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him. (We don't mix the preaching or teaching of God's principles and mammon's principles.) 
Hence, most prosperity or radical grace preachers would find it difficult to preach prosperity if they would just quote from the New Testament.  They would have to mix the doctrine of the New Testament with the Old to give the false impression that Jesus and the Apostles had all taught the doctrine of prosperity under the New Testament. In fact, the only Bible verse which talks about prosperity in the New Testament can hardly be taught as a doctrine of prosperity:
  • 3Jn 1:2-8 KJV  Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.  (3)  For I rejoiced greatly, when the brethren came and testified of the truth that is in thee, even as thou walkest in the truth.  (4)  I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth.  (5)  Beloved, thou doest faithfully whatsoever thou doest to the brethren, and to strangers;  (6)  Which have borne witness of thy charity before the church: whom if thou bring forward on their journey after a godly sort, thou shalt do well:  (7)  Because that for his name's sake they went forth, taking nothing of the Gentiles.  (8)  We therefore ought to receive such, that we might be fellowhelpers to the truth.
Do you agree that John was not teaching about 'prosperity'; but 'walking in truth'? 


But false preachers would preach lies instead of truth under the New Covenant
I would not say that all the preachers are prosperity preachers or false preachers. However, if they can convict the people that they are the 'anointed ones', 'christs', 'stars', 'donkeys', or 'frogs' who can preach much prosperity and prosper everyone, they are not just 'prophets'; they are the 'prophecy' too:
  • Mat 24:23-26 KJV  Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.  (24)  For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.  (25)  Behold, I have told you before.  (26)  Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
  • Jud 1:3-19 KJV  Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.  (4)  For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. .. (10)  But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.  (11)  Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.  (12)  These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;  (13)  Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.  .. (16)  These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.  (17)  But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;  (18)  How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.  (19)  These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
  • Rev 16:13-16 KJV  And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.  (14)  For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.  (15)  Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.  (16)  And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

     
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