Is there something wrong if a person feels sin conscious?

Is there something wrong if a person feels sin conscience?
Of course, something was wrong when Adam and Eve felt sin conscience immediately after they have fellen. But something is more terribly wrong if all of us in the world today can no longer feel any sin conscience now; believers are no exception too. Only angels or Satan can never feel any sin conscience. Yes, we know that it is terrible to feel sin conscience. Even Paul told us that he felt terrible about sin or the wretchedness of sins too.

• Rom 7:19-24 KJV  For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.  (20)  Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.  (21)  I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.  (22)  For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:  (23)  But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.  (24)  O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
  (Did Paul say that he could never sin because he was  under grace? No, if he could never sin, he would never said "O wretched man that I am! (v24)", confess that he was still brought under the captivity of sin (v23), and admit ".. the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do (v19)". Hence, if Paul still sinned or confessed publicly about his existing weakness or sins in his wretched man, why can't a believer or a sinner confess his sins and admit that he has sinned too? If Paul did not think that he could insult the righteousness of God by admitting or confessing it, how can we think that we will insult God's righteousness by confessing our sins? If Paul was not ashamed to confess about his sinful deeds or wretchedness, why should we be afraid to confess our sins ???)

However, the question that bothers most radical grace preachers today is not the question whether sinners and wrongdoers can feel sin conscience; but the question whether believers and preachers can still feel sin conscience if they have committed adulteries, stolen funds from the churches, or preached false doctrine to prosper themselves .. 

Is there something wrong if a sinner cannot feel sin conscience?
I would think that there is something wrong too if a sinner or believer cannot feel any sin conscience too. If a sinner cannot fee any sin conscience to repent, how can he repent? or how can he see the need to repent? or how can he know that he still need to repent? Hence, the greatest heresy with the radical grace preaching is not because they preach grace radically; it is because they make sinners or believers think that feeling sin conscience is condemnation and from the Satan. No, I would think that something is wrong if all men or sinners cannot feel sin conscience any more.
I do not like to find fault, but if radical grace preaching is preached so radically that all men, including the believers and even God's elect, think that sin conscience is from the devil, something is wrong.
Yes, I know that we can generally classify sin conscience into two categories, and we know that sin conscience can lead to eternal condemnation if it does not lead us to God:

1. Sin conscience to offer sin sacrifice
2. Sin conscience to repent

However, I would think that both types of sin conscience above are from God because they lead people to God. One was given to the Jews who were under the law to offer blood sacrifice; the other to the New Testament believers (to both the Jews and Gentiles) who are under grace to repent or have received grace to repent. One was under the Old Testament which has passed away; the other is under God's provision under the New Testament:

1. Heb 10:1-2 KJV  For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.  (2)  For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
2. Heb 10:16-39 KJV  This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;  .. (22)  Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water. (isn't this repentance or the baptism of repentance under the New covenant) .. (24)  And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:  ..  (26)  For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, ..

The Gentiles who seem to have received more grace without the law can now enjoy the forgiveness of God because of grace for sin conscience to repent and the baptism of repentance in the Lord under the New Covenant.

Is there something wrong if a believer cannot feel sin conscience to repent? 
Of course, today we have no more conscience of sins to offer sacrifice, but we, especially the sinners, still have conscience of sins to repent. If we take away the sin conscience to repent and tell the sinners or the believers to just think of grace or think of God's goodness without the sin conscience to repent, something is terribly wrong. We are taking away God's covenant for His laws to remain in our hearts or in God's sanctuary too.

• Mat 24:14-15 KJV  And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.  (15)  When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
• Dan 11:30-32 KJV  For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.  (31)  And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.  (32)  And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.

Wrong interpretation of John's letters will never lead people to repentance
To the sinners, it is licence to sin or licence to continue to live under Adam's lawlessness and transgression of law; but to us, the believers, it is sinning wilfully by rejecting the truth of God or God's grace for sin conscience to repent.

• 1Jn 3:4 KJV  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
• 1Jn 3:4 LITV  Everyone practicing sin also practices lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.

Telling the people (whether they are sinners or believers) that they can no longer sin or feel sin conscience is like telling them to deceive themselves and think that they are robots. It is a lie to think nothing about sin and lie that there is no more need for repentance and confession of sins. Of course, when John told us to confess our sins, he did not tell us to just confess it repeatedly, hypocritically, and radically, and do nothing. He told us to admit it, confess it, and repent.

• 1Jn 1:7-10 KJV  But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.  (8)  If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.  (9)  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.  (10)  If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Of course, we don't just conclude that 1 John 1:9 is a letter written to the world or agnostic just because some crazy nuts or false prophets tell them to confess it like the hypocrites or like the parrots. I will tell them, Please think with your anointed brain, How can any part of John's letters or Paul's letters be written to the unbelievers or agnostic believers in the world. No, John's letters are written to the churches and God's people. He would never write to the unbelievers or the agnostic believers in the world because he knew that they would never listen to God or him. If you still want scriptural proof that it is written to God's people and not the world, just read the following Bible verses.

• 1Jn 2:1 KJV  My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

Of course, if we can find the envelop of the letter (which is unlikely), I would presume confidently that it should be addressed to all the children of God or the church of God too, instead of to the agnostic believers or a few groups of people. I don't think John would split the audience into a few groups and tell them who can confess sins and who cannot confess sins. However, it is sad to know that many radical grace preachers have used this same technique to split the words of God and convince us what we can do and what we cannot do too. They have convinced many what commandment they should keep and what they should not keep too. They have corrupted God's words by splitting God's words and deceive many that they could interpret the Bible better. They could have become false prophets. 


It is a lie to tell people that Jesus did not tell us to repent or to turn away from our sins
They will argue, "But Jesus would never preach or ask the sinners to be sin conscious. He would always heal them before they could even repent or confess their sins. We should preach like Jesus .."
I will tell them, If you want to preach like Jesus, you should read your Bible again; instead of turning some Bible verses into your own excuses or your own blindness from seeing the need to repent:

1. Yes, I agree that Jesus did not ask the adulterous woman to repent; but He did tell the woman to sin no more (Joh 8:11). It means to repent and turn from her sins. 
2. Yes,  Jesus did not tell us that the prodigal son repented, but He did tell us that the prodigal son metanoia (came to himself about his predicament and admitted that he had sinned Luk 15:17). It means the prodigal repented and turned from his sins.
3. Yes, Jesus did not tell us that He commanded Zacchaeus to repent. But He did preach repentance and call sinners to repent since day 1 (Mat 4:17). Obviously, Zacchaeus repented after Jesus had started preaching repentance; not before He preached it. Hence, Zacchaeus knew the command of Jesus to repent. In fact, Jesus reaffirmed his command to repent by saying to him: Luk 19:9-10 KJV  And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house, forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham.  (10)  For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost. Luk 5:32 KJV  I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
4. Yes, Jesus did not tell the bed-ridden man to repent before He healed him, but Jesus did say to him later to sin no more, lest he would become worst than before: Joh 5:14 KJV  Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.
5. Yes, Jesus did not tell the thief to repent and do something worthy of the fruit of repentance, but are you preaching to the sinners in the mental hospital or those who are stuck on the cross like the thief? If the majority of your audience are mental patients who are deep in guilt conscience or depression, yes, you may tell them to take a break before you can preach to them. However, if you are preaching to the sinners of the world who are no better than the sinners in Jesus time, you've got to preach the same truth to the people today. You have to preach like Jesus. Jesus told His disciples that they should not be bothered if the people did not accept them. Mar 6:11-12 KJV  And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.  (12)  And they went out, and preached that men should repent.
   Similarly, we should just dust off our feet without getting angry if people mocked at us and reject the repentance message or the gospel of Jesus Christ: However, if we accuse Jesus or His disciples for preaching too much repentance, something is wrong with the way we hear from Jesus.

Do you agree that Jesus had always preached repentance and told the people to repent and sin no more? If we agree with it, we should agree that the sinners who heard Him would be sin conscious too. Frankly, I don't know how Jesus could ask the people to sin no more if they were not sin conscious. In fact, I believe that the adulterous woman, Zacchaeus, and the prodigal son, were all very sin conscious. That's why they would repent. Please think, If we keep telling people that they are sinners; but that they should not have any sin conscience, do you think that they will still repent? I doubt so. I don't think we are preaching like Jesus if we tell the sinners to confess righteousness instead, before they know why they are called sinners or why they must repent. Yes, I know that we are eager to preach the gospel that is too good to be true and get all the sinners to believe in the Lord, but to get all the sinners to bypass the need of repentance is too ridiculous. It can never be the gospel of Jesus Christ.


Do we just preach the one thing we know or do the one thing we know ?
Many will argue, "We have preached the gospel of Jesus Christ. We can never be the false prophets even if we refuse to preach any repentance or turning away from sins. We preach the real doctrine. We preach Jesus. We may not preach the doctrine like the Pharisees or the theologians, but we preach like Jesus. We heal the sick, the blind, the poor, the depressed, and many who need Jesus. If you ask them what they need the most, they would tell us that it is not the doctrine of repentance or doctrine of Christ; it is the miracles and prosperity of Christ. They will say, 'We may not know many principles and laws, but one thing we do know: We were once blind but now we can see, once we were sick but now we are healed. Once we were poor, but now we are rich'.
Joh 9:25 KJV  He answered and said, Whether he be a sinner or no, I know not: one thing I know, that, whereas I was blind, now I see.
Hence, any pastors or theologians who oppose our gospel are like the Pharisees and the scribes. They are the enemies of God, who try to stop the gospel revolution and the work of Jesus."
I will tell them, Yes, we all know one thing. On that day, many preachers will say that they know one thing or many things. But do we preach one thing and tell people to do another thing? Jesus had prophesied that many who confessed His name or confessed that they were from God would preach one thing or many things to oppose God's will. Obviously the will of God for the sinners is to do and keep His laws and commandments. But they would preach many things to oppose Him subtly:

• Gen 2:16-17 KJV  And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:  (17)  But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. .. Gen 3:4-5 KJV  And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:  (5)  For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
• Mat 7:15-24 KJV  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.  (16)  Ye shall know them by their fruits. .. (21)  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.  (22)  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?  (23)  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.  (24)  Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
• Luk 6:46-48 KJV  And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?  (47)  Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:  (48)  He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood (false doctrine) arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. (Hence, Jesus said clearly that He would not just want us to have right believing, right faith, right miracles, right preaching, or right confession only; he wants us to have right doing with His words too, because right doing would prove that we are His true disciples on the rock of salvation.)
• Mat 4:3-10 KJV  And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.  (4)  But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.  (5)  Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,  (6)  And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.  (7)  Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.  (8)  Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;  (9)  And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.  (10)  Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. (Notice how Satan tempted Jesus. Satan would never tell us to oppose God or God's words directly in the beginning. He would say, If you are the children of God or believers of Jesus Christ, you should do this or that without the laws or commandments of God .. But in the end, he would reveal himself as the Satan who would oppose God and God's laws. What shall we do? We shall tell him to shut up and get lost ..

2Pe 3:8-18 KJV  But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.  (9)  The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.  (10)  But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. .... (14)  Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.  (15)  And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;  (16)  As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.  (17)  Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.  
We have just read that all men must come to repentance. Many will still ask, "But repentance of what?" I will say, Repentance of a true believer of God

• to turn from our sin, 
• to depart from our lawlessness, 
• to stop believing in the error of the lawless, and 
• to stop opposing God and His scriptures (this is something extra for the preachers and the prince of the lawless) - 2Pe 3:16-17 LITV  as also in all his epistles, speaking in them concerning these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the unlearned and unsettled pervert, as also they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.  (17)  Then beloved, you knowing beforehand, watch lest being led away by the error of the lawless you fall from your own steadfastness.
   

There is still sin conscience if a person has the conviction of sins
Of course, if a person has the conviction of sins, he has sin conscience or condemnation of sins too. But the question is not 'Can God convict the sinners of sins?'; but 'Can God, Jesus Christ, or the Holy Spirit convict us (all the believers) of sins?'
I do not like to find fault, but if radical grace doctrine is preached so radically that all men, including the believers and even God's elect, think that sin conscience is from the devil, something is wrong with their doctrine.
Yes, I know that sin conscience or conviction of sins is terrible and it would lead to unpleasant feeling, condemnation feeling, or bad feeling of being the accused. However, sin conscience or conviction of sins is not necessarily always the accusation of Satan. It could be God's judgement or the sharp rebuke by the Lord. When the radical grace preachers argue that the Holy Spirit can no longer convict sins even if a believer or a preacher has sinned, committed adulteries, lied, or cheated, their radical preaching against sin conscience has become a kind of blindness which could give temporary relief to the unrepentant sinners. I will tell them, If the Holy Spirit cannot convict you if you have committed adulteries or lied, who can convict you? No, no one else can correct you too. I don't think you would listen to God or Jesus Christ too. You would only listen to your own 'Jesus' or the 'psychological Jesus' who would still praise you, brainwash you, mesmerize you, have good opinion of you, and say good things of you even after you have sinned, committed adulteries, lied, and cheated.

• Mat 19:16-17 KJV  And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?  (17)  And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
• Mat 5:20-29 KJV  For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.  (21)  Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:Mat ... (27) Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:  (28)  But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.  (29)  And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. (Hence, Jesus did not say that we should be as righteous as the Pharisees, but He said we should be more righteous than the Pharisees who were hypocrites. In another words, 1. All the Jews must still repent even though they thought that they were as righteous as the Pharisees, 2. All of us, who are now in Christ should never follow the deceivableness of unrighteousness (2Th 2:10) that is in the Pharisees or hypocrites too.)
• Joh 8:7-11 KJV  So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.  (8)  And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.  (9)  And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. ..
• Mat 7:22-23 KJV  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?  (23)  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
• Act 2:37-38 KJV  Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?  (38)  Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 
• Luk 16:25-31 KJV  But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.  .. (27)  Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:  (28)  For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. .. (30)  And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.  (31)  And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
• Rev 3:14-19 KJV  And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;  (15)  I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.  (16)  So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.  (17)  Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:  (18)  I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.  (19)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
• Rev 22:13-14 KJV  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.  (14)  Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

These Bible verses show us one thing very clearly: ie. Jesus would never say these Bible verses to tell us to depart from God's laws. However, He would say it to convict all of us (including those who think that they are too righteous to confess sins) of our sins and our lawlessness !

• Act 8:20-24 KJV  But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.  (21)  Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God.  (22)  Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.  (23)  For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity.  (24)  Then answered Simon, and said, Pray ye to the Lord for me, that none of these things which ye have spoken come upon me.

I will tell the radical grace preachers, If Jesus and His disciples can convict us of our sins and lawlessness, why can't the Holy Spirit convict the believers of sins too? If Jesus could convict the Pharisees by writing on the ground with His fingers and cause the Pharisees to leave one by one before Him (Joh 8:8-9), He can convict anyone, including the self-righteous believers, gnostic believers, agnostic believers, carnal believers, false believers, lying believers, or any kind of believers who think and argue that they can never sin or do not have any sin too.


If Jesus would convict sins, can the Holy Spirit convict sins too?
Hence, I don't think anyone can deny that Jesus Christ or the Holy Spirit can convict sins. If Jesus could convict the Pharisees by writing on the ground with His fingers and cause the Pharisees to leave one by one before Him (Joh 8:8-9), He can convict anyone in the world ('kosmos'), including the self-righteous believers, gnostic believers, agnostic believers, carnal believers, false believers, lying believers, worldly believers, or any kind of believers who think and argue that they can never be the sinners of the world and, therefore, they can never sin or do not have any sin to be convicted by the Holy Spirit.
They will still argue, "But the Bible tell us clearly that the Holy Spirit cannot convict us of sins; He can only convict the world of sins. He won't ask us to confess our sins; He would ask the world to confess their sins"

• Joh 16:8-12 KJV  And when he is come, he will reprove the world ('Kosmos') of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:  (9)  Of sin, because they believe not on me;  (10)  Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;  (11)  Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.  (12)  I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
• 1Jn 1:8-10 KJV  If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.  (9)  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.  (10)  If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

I will tell them, Can you please read the Bible verses again? The Bible said, The Holy Spirit will reprove the world of sin, righteousness, and judgement. If the Holy Spirit can reprove the world, of course, He can reprove anyone in the world.
Please don't interpret your own will into the Bible. Do you know that He can reprove you even if you think that you are the most favored believer or the greatest saint, bishop, pope, pastor, or prophet? Yes, you could be the most anointed leader of your churches too, but if you are still in the world, you are not too anointed to be reproved by God, by His words, or by the Holy Spirit. If no one is too anointed to be reproved by God, no one can say that he can never sin or confess his sins too. I don't think John or Paul could say that either.
Even Peter was reproved by Paul when he did not do rightly:Gal 2:14 KJV  But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?
Obviously, when John and Paul said, "If we confess our sins" in 1 John 1:9 or "If we sin willfully" in Heb 10:26, they did not want people to think that they are too anointed to sin, to confess their sins, or to repent. If they thought that believers can never sin or confess their sins, they would never have said, "If we confess our sin" or "if we sin willfully"; instead they would just say, "If you rebels sin" or "If you sin the unpardonable sin". But why did they say, "If we sin.." to give us the impression that they could sin too? Of course, they did not want to give us the false impression that they could never sin; instead they would always tell the believers and themselves to admit that they could sin and they need to confess sins, past, present, and future. That's why they could say that if they sinned and confessed their sins (without repeating the confession like the hypocrites or the parrots), God could still forgive their sins. But if they are too proud to confess it, they knew that they would not be forgiven. Obviously, they knew the teaching of Jesus Christ and they would never try to preach it differently to hide the sin conscience of the people:

• 1Ti 1:14-16 KJV  And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.  (15)  This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.  (16)  Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting. (Why did Paul always remind us or himself that we are sinners? Wouldn't it remind us of sin conscience? Yes, definitely but it should remind us of more grace from God too. That's why Paul would also say, Rom 5:19-21 KJV  For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.  (20)  Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:  (21)  That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord. As we think and talk more about sin, grace abound even more. As we are more sin conscience, grace would be even more obvious in our lives. I will tell them, Yes, Paul did say that by Christ obedience, we are made righteous, but he did not say that by one man's obedience, we are made righteous to disobey, rebel, sin, live lawlessly (or think lawlessly), and reject all the laws of God.
  
• Luk 13:2-3 KJV  And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?  (3)  I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. (If we think that we have no sins, Jesus would remind us that we are not too righteous to repent.  
• Mat 5:20-21 KJV  For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.  (21)  Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:)
• Luk 11:2-4 KJV  And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.  (3)  Give us day by day our daily bread.  (4)  And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil. (How many of us think that the prayer of the Lord has become obsolete? Do you think so because the preachers said so or because Jesus told you so in His words? Very likely you think so because some preachers said so. You won't find Jesus telling us in the Bible that His prayer has become obsolete.    

All the Bible verses above shows us clearly that Jesus had taught His disciples, including John and Paul, to confess sins and admit sins daily to receive the grace of God and the forgiveness of sins. If we think that we are no longer sinners or that we can no longer sin, we've probably unknowingly rejected the need for grace too. It is ridiculous to preach that sinners or believers can never sin when Jesus, John, Paul, and all the disciples of Jesus had preached the warning of sins, the need of repentance, and confession of sins. I am polite if I say that those who preach against the gospel of Jesus Christ are ridiculous. If I am frank, I would tell them to shut up and stay in 'one corner':

• Mat 4:10 KJV  Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
• Mar 8:32-38 KJV  And he spake that saying openly. And Peter took him, and began to rebuke him.  (33)  But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men.  (34)  And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.  (35)  For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.  (36)  For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?  (37)  Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?  (38)  Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.

I will ask the 'anointed' preachers, Are you ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ because it preaches against sins or sin conscience to the sinners or to the world? I don't think you should preach something else to the sinners to replace the cross, dying to sins, or keeping God's commandments, even if you think that the world has become a better world. No, the gospel of Jesus Christ is still the same for this adulterous and sinful generation. The world would still need to hear the message of repentance and depart from their lawlessness and sins.
I will ask them, Have you heard of 'anointed' preachers who are convicted of their adulteries, abuse of young children, stealing, or misappropriation of funds? I have heard of different convictions of many preachers from both the mainstream churches and independent churches too. Please think, If the anointed preachers can be convicted of their crimes or lawlessness by the judges of the world or the sinners, isn't it ridiculous to preach that the anointed preachers can never be convicted by God? Of course, it is ridiculous to find that the sinners of the world can judge but our God cannot judge ??? This again would show us that the theology of most radical grace preachers (who preach that God can never convict the believers of sins) is absurd. It can never be right believing. The Corinthians might be confessing or professing believers, but Paul would still speak strongly against them or convict them even if he needed to openly speak out against their 'shame' or sins:

• 1Co 6:5-11 KJV  I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?  (6)  But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.  (7)  Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?  (8)  Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.  (9)  Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,  (10)  Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.  (11)  And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Don't be made used of by the lawless one
Of course, we know that 1 John 1:9 tells us that we can confess sin because, if we confess our sins, He will forgive us. However, I am sure that 1 John 1:9 does not say how we should confess our sins. Of course, we can confess sins with our mouth or with our action. But I can't tell people how many times they have to confess sins (once a day or 5000 times a day?), when to confess sins (in the morning or evening?), where to confess sins (in our church, home, or massage parlour?), or what to say (Our heavenly Father, hallowed be thy name.. or Jesus, see how I beat my chest now ..). But, should any preachers give us the false impression that most churches are telling us to confess like the parrots or hypocrites, they are not God's preachers. They could be sent by the prince of the world to corrupt the teaching of repentance and falsely accuse the churches so that he (the prince of the world) could preach a better 'repentance'. however, we know that it is a 'repentance' which would only tell us to 'metanoia', change our mind, and depart from the laws of God (to embrace his own lawless philosophy). He would then mock at all those who preach repentance and God's commandments. He would be loved by many who are tired of keeping God's laws and commandments.

• Rev 12:17 KJV  And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
• Rev 14:12 KJV  Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
• 2Pe 3:15-17 LITV  And think of the long-suffering of our Lord as salvation, as also our beloved brother Paul wrote to you, according to the wisdom given to him;  (16)  as also in all his epistles, speaking in them concerning these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the unlearned and unsettled pervert, as also they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.  (17)  Then beloved, you knowing beforehand, watch lest being led away by the error of the lawless you fall from your own steadfastness.
• 2Th 2:5-15 LITV  Do you not remember that I told you these things, I yet being with you?  (6)  And now you know the thing holding back, for him to be revealed in his time.  (7)  For the mystery of lawlessness already is working, only he is holding back now, until it comes out of the midst.  (8)  And then "the Lawless One" will be revealed, "whom" "the Lord" "will consume" "by the spirit of His mouth," and will bring to nought by the brightness of His presence. Isa. 11:4  (9)  His coming is according to the working of Satan in all power and miraculous signs and lying wonders,  (10)  and in all deceit of unrighteousness in those being lost, because they did not receive the love of the truth in order for them to be saved.  (11)  And because of this, God will send to them a working of error, for them to believe the lie,  (12)  that all may be judged, those not believing the truth, but who have delighted in unrighteousness.  (13)  But we ought to thank God always concerning you, brothers, beloved by the Lord, because God chose you from the beginning to salvation in sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth,  (14)  to which He called you through our gospel, to obtain the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.  (15)  So, then, brothers, stand firm and strongly hold the teachings you were taught, whether by word or by our letter. (How to obtain the glory of the Lord? By not departing from God's laws and commandments, like the ones who lost their garment again after they had found it: Gen 3:7 KJV  And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons. Mat 22:11-12 KJV  And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:  (12)  And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.)

Under the New Covenant, our sanctified conscience would still tell us to keep God's commandments
I will tell him, I am not bother if you whispered repetitive confession of sins or shouted it at the top of your voice to impress others. However, if you stop people from confessing sins when they ought to, you could have problem confessing your sins to God with true repentance too. You could have tried to confess it like the parrots but you knew that there was no repentance. Hence, you had deliberately tried to find the alternative to confessing it. Instead of confessing your sins and repenting in obedience to His words in 1 John 1:9, you would just want to change your mind from thinking of your sins or confession of sins to thinking of no more sins. Of course, if you are a sinner and you chose to think no more of sins, you could argue that you have no more need to confess sins. However, your argument or the preaching of your thinking would never lead any sinner or yourselves to true repentance. It would only lead yourselves to continue to live in denial of your sin conscience. There is no repentance even if you may argue that you have confessed the name of Jesus Christ repetitively.
We cannot live in denial of our sin problem or sin conscience because of the sins in the flesh. If we still struggle with our lust, pride, and greed, it does not mean that feeling of sins, sin conscience, or guilt consciousness about our sins in the flesh is wrong. It does not mean that those who feel numb about their lust, pride, and greed are right either.

• 1Ti 4:1-2 KJV  Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;  (2)  Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

Paul told us that he still had the struggle of sins in the flesh, of infirmities, and of the law of sins. Many radical grace preachers complained that the struggle and confession of sins is too tiring for them, but Paul did not complain like them. He did not just give up the law of God and follow their lawless philosophies instead.   

• Rom 7:23-25 KJV  But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.  (24)  O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?  (25)  I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. -----

Yes, we all need the grace of God; but if grace is preached to take away the covenant of grace to repent or to live with God's laws in our hearts, it is no longer the grace of God. It is just a 'lawless covenant' which is useless. It is likened to a blank contract or a blank piece of paper without any term, condition, or law. It may be accompanied by many kinds of fantastic promises, but it can never deliver.
Hence, we may cancel a contract and replace it with another contract, but we can never cancel the contract and replace it with another blank contract or blank piece of paper. The same should apply for God's covenants too. God's covenant can never be replaced by a blank covenant or a 'blank piece of cheque' or promissory note. But Satan would give people the promise of a 'blank cheque' which is too good to be true. But we know that the 'blank cheque' would be bounced even if he could tell us with many promises that it can never be 'bounced, condemned, or penalized' because it is issued by the 'bank of grace, water-marked by the blood, and guaranteed with his mark of lawlessness':

• Gen 3:4-5 KJV  And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:  (5)  For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
• Heb 10:26-31 KJV  For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,  (27)  But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.  (28)  He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:  (29)  Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?  (30)  For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.  (31)  It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. (I will talk about Heb 10:26 again in more detailed later. But can we twist it and argue that this warning is not for God's people? No, it says very clearly that God will judge His people; not other people. When He used the comparison of a sorer punishment, He confirmed again that He was comparing and warning two of His people - one who despised Moses' law under the Old Covenant, and another who will dishonour the Spirit of grace under the New Covenant. Please think, who were able to despised Moses' law? Of course, nobody except the Jews or God's people who were given the law? Similarly, who can dishonour the Spirit of grace? Of course, no one, except God's people who have been given the grace of God too?

Will Satan tempt those who are under God's covenant or out of God's covenant?
Many will argue, "Yes, we know that Satan had tempted Adam and Eve when there was no covenant between God and man. But we are now living under the New Covenant. Satan can never tempt us any more.." I will tell them, You have just read Heb 10:26. Can you please read the Bible verses above Heb 10:26 too? The whole chapter of Heb 10 shows us clearly that Satan will come again to tempt us after we have received the New Covenant. And he will give us the 'promissory note' from his bank of lawlessness again. He will abuse the name of the Son of God, the blood of the covenant, and the grace of God.

• Heb 10:16-22 KJV  This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; .. (22) Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water...

They will still argue, "But Satan can never tempt us who are under the New Covenant. Satan can only tempt those who are sinners. Without God's protection, they are more vulnerable to his temptation. If you want to preach warning of dooms and gloom to the people, you should not preach it to God's people; you should preach it to the sinners of the world. Why? We are God's people. We are positive people. We are not like the sinners who live in fears or who enjoy living in fears ..."
I will tell them, If you are not God's people under His covenant, why should Satan tempt you? If you belong to Satan, he would not need to tempt you. He would only tempt those who are no longer under him or under his control. The Bible has clearly shown us that Satan would never preach another Jesus to the world; he would preach another Jesus only to the churches who are under God's covenant. Of course, Satan would never need to tempt the sinners or those who are under his 'covenant of lawlessness':

• 2Co 11:3-4 KJV  But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.  (4)  For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
• Act 20:28-31 KJV  Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.  (29)  For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.  (30)  Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.  (31)  Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.

Please use common sense, Why did Paul say, "I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled .." or "For I know this .. I ceased not to warn everyone day and night with tears", it shows us that he feared or believed that there could be great possibility that the churches could fall into the trap of the serpent. It would be meaningless for Paul to say that "he feared and warned with tears" when he would think that everyone or all the believers are forever saved, deeply loved, greatly blessed, and highly favored irregardless of what they hear or do.
I will tell them, If God did not give us the warning about Satan's temptation, common sense would still tell us that believers should be warned of Satan's temptation and the possibility of being fallen or being tricked by him. Please think, If Satan had tempted Adam and Eve and caused them to fall, would he need to tempt them again? No. Would he still need to tempt all the sinners to sin again? No. He could just take a break, lie comfortably on his recliner chair, smoke cigars, smile at us, and watch effortlessly on how men would all perish in their sins. But, instead, why did the Bible tell us that he was shouting (preaching) angrily with his lies and false doctrine. Why should he worked so hard (with his mouth) when he should be enjoying himself (on his recliner chair)?

• Rev 12:15-17 KJV  And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.  (16)  And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.  (17)  And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Who are the remnant who keep the commandments of God? Of course, they are not the believers who keep God's commandments hypocritically with their mouths (by confessing only). Neither are they who can boast that they can keep all God's commandments perfectly. They are simply those who would still obey, do, and teach God's commandments in the end time when all other believers have fallen, believed the doctrine of the lawless, departed from God's laws, and given up on the commandments of God. The Bible tells us that, in spite of great persecution, temptation, or false doctrine which flowed out from the mouth of the great serpent and the false prophets, God's people keep focusing on the words of God without wavering:

• Rev 14:11-12 KJV  And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.  (12)  Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

However, Satan is losing patience. He could not 'sleep and eat'. He is angry because of this remnant of believers who still keep the commandments of God.and the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Hence, we may not warn the sinners of Satan's wroth, deception, doctrine of lawlessness, or temptation; but we would certainly warn the believers who still keep God's commandments. We warn the believers because the believers should have the commandments of God and they could be tempted or attacked by Satan before they could make war with him in the end time. Of course, Satan is not stupid to tempt the believers if he thinks that the believers could never fall. Hence, I find that those who preach that all the believers should only rest, relax, and ignore all God's warning and none can fall are actually lying to the believers or trying to blind the believers. They are not helping the believers; but instead helping the dragon to deceive the believers and cause them to fall because of blindness. Their ultimate goal and objective is to 'annihilate' the remnant of believers who would still keep the commandments of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ. Yes, it could be just a battle of the mind (as preached by the radical grace preachers). It would not cause any bloodshed, but it may be deadlier than any battle in all our church history. It would cause precious lives to go to hell if the churches still refuse to wake up: 

• Rev 13:4-18 KJV  And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?  (5)  And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.  (6)  And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.  (7)  And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.  (8)  And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world... (11)  And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.  ...  (15)  And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.  (16)  And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:  (17)  And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.  (18)  Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

   
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Who is greater? God or Grace?

Of course, a three years-old kid can tell us, God is greater. I am not bothered if the kids or immature believers can answer this correctly or not. However, if preachers argue and accuse others for not preaching grace as God or God as grace, like them, I would like to question them, Didn't you preach that we must believe right? If we must believe right, you'd better be right with 'God is grace or grace is God'.

I think common English would say it correctly as 'God is grace, God is love, God is goodness, God is truth, God is everything .. ' but our English would never say, 'Grace is God, Grace is Jesus Christ, or Love is God'. The logic is so simple that everyone knows that when we reverse it and say, "Grace is God", we focus on Grace instead of God. In another words, Grace has become God and Grace has become everything like God. The question is: 'Can we worship 'Grace as God? or Is Grace considered as God in the Bible? No, the Bible tells us clearly that it is an abomination to worship grace as God and put grace higher than God. How do we know it? We know it by God's commandments or the Ten Commandments. However, grace preachers who preach grace as God and God as grace could have departed from God's laws and commandments, and hence, they could not see any wrong to worship God or preach God as 'anyway they like'.

Radical grace or hyper grace preachers would argue, "How about John 1:17 which says that grace and truth came by Jesus Christ? Hence, God's grace is a person. Grace is God." I will ask them, If God's grace is a person, God's money is a person too. Can money be God? This is absurd.

• Joh 1:17 KJV  For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

I will tell them, If you can read simple English, you should know that that Bible verse did not tell us that grace is God or grace is Jesus Christ; it said clearly that grace is something came by Jesus Christ. It is a gift. It came by Jesus Christ. So, if you have been preaching that the law preachers are less anointed because they did not preach like you, please sanctify your mind first and get this right before boasting that you are more anointed and that you could hear the voice of God to preach Grace as God or Grace as Jesus Christ. Of course, grace is not a doctrine, neither is it God; it is a gift of God.


We don't compare and choose God's gifts
Ok, I presume that all grace preachers should be responsible enough to preach the right doctrine for right believing. But some of them would still argue, "Who is greater? Grace or law?"
I think this is a prevalent problem with most of the radical grace preachers - they have identified themselves so much with John, the disciple whom Jesus loved, that they began to talk and think like John before John could become mature enough not to compare and choose:

• Mar 10:35-45 KJV  And James and John, the sons of Zebedee, come unto him, saying, Master, we would that thou shouldest do for us whatsoever we shall desire.  ..  (37)  They said unto him, Grant unto us that we may sit, one on thy right hand, and the other on thy left hand, in thy glory.  (38)  But Jesus said unto them, Ye know not what ye ask: can ye drink of the cup that I drink of? and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?  (39)  And they said unto him, We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized:  (40)  But to sit on my right hand and on my left hand is not mine to give; but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared.  (41)  And when the ten heard it, they began to be much displeased with James and John.  (42)  But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them.  (43)  But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:  (44)  And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all.  (45)  For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

I will ask the radical grace preachers, Can we agree that both the grace of God and the law of God are not God, but the gifts of God? If we agree, I am not bothered if one gift is higher than the other or greater than the other. After all, if they are gifts of God, we receive both joyfully. If they are the gifts, we do not compare and choose or; we just receive both in obedience.

• Heb 8:10 KJV  For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

They will argue again, "But we are no longer under the law to do the law or righteousness; we are under grace. We should not choose the law; we can choose grace with no more law to do anything." I will tell them, Yes, we are no longer under the law; but Paul did not say that we are no longer under any law. Please read your Bible again, Under the law of Christ, we are still required to have God's laws in our mind. We are still under the law of Christ to do the laws of God and righteousness:

• 1Co 9:20-22 KJV  And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;  (21)  To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.  (22)  To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.
• Rom 6:13-19 KJV  Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God..... (16) Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? ... (19) I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness. 

I will tell them, If you still want to argue and bring out the ark of covenant in the Old Testament, and say, "Since the mercy seat is above the Ten Commandments, and therefore, grace (or mercy) is higher than God's laws and commandments", I can still go deeper and have longer discussion with you. Please refer to my previous post 'Is it wrong to preach an angry God or a happy God. I may not have answered everything there but I believe that somewhere in that post, I could have answered why God laws, God's commandments, and God words are still higher than grace ! Be blessed.

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Is it wrong to preach an angry God or a happy God?

Is it wrong to preach an angry God or a happy God?
No, of course, it is not wrong. I am not bothered if people will preach an angry God or a happy God. It's because I think that God can be angry or happy; it depends. Like us, God can feel and have great emotion. It is not likely that He can only be happy all the time or angry all the time. God may not weep or anger like Jesus, but if God can be grieved, I don't see any reason why God cannot be happy or sad when He is pleased or displeased.

• Joh 11:34-38 KJV  And said, Where have ye laid him? They said unto him, Lord, come and see.  (35)  Jesus wept. .. (38)  Jesus therefore again groaning in himself cometh to the grave. It was a cave, and a stone lay upon it.
• Mar 3:1-5 KJV  And he entered again into the synagogue; and there was a man there which had a withered hand. .. (5)  And when he had looked round about on them with anger, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts, he saith unto the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it out: and his hand was restored whole as the other.
• Eph 4:26-31 KJV  Be ye angry, and sin not:..(28)  Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth. .. (30)  And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption...
• Joh 8:28-29 KJV  Then said Jesus unto them, .. (29)  And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.
• Rom 8:7-9 KJV  Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  (8)  So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  (9)  But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. (This verse clearly shows us that we being in the Spirit must be subject to the law of God to please Him. Hence, to do and keep the law of God in the Spirit of Christ is not necessarily the same as being under the law like the Pharisees.)
• 1Co 7:32 KJV  But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord:
• 1Th 4:1-8 KJV  Furthermore then we beseech you, brethren, and exhort you by the Lord Jesus, that as ye have received of us how ye ought to walk and to please God, so ye would abound more and more.  (2)  For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.  (3)  For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication:  (4)  That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour;  (5)  Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God:  (6)  That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified.  (7)  For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness. (8)  He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit. (This verse shows us that we please God by keeping His commandments. For it is the will of God to sanctify us, not unto uncleanness; but unto holiness. Anyone who preaches otherwise despised not man, but God who can be grieved like the Holy Spirit. Mat 7:21 KJV  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.)
• 2Ti 2:1-4 KJV  Thou therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus.  (2)  And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.  (3)  Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.  (4)  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier. 

God's preachers will never need to preach lies to please God or men
When we preach according to God's words that God can be grieved or displeased by what we do, say, or teaches or that God can be angry if we lie or sin, guess who would accuse us for preaching an angry God? False prophets or liars! They may quote many scriptures to say that they can lie and sin and yet God is still very pleased with them because they know Abraham and the key to having the righteousness of God, having good opinion of God, having the blood, having the grace of God, and having faith in the promises of God. They would say that Abraham lied but God would still look at him as the righteous because Abraham had faith. I will tell them, Yes, Abraham lie; but nobody died. When you lie, many will die. Why? Abraham did not preach his lying as God's way of justifying all the sinners and liars; but you preached his lying as God's way of justifying all the sinners and liars. Abraham did not preach his lying as God's revolution for grace; but you preached his lying as His revolution for grace. Did you also preach Abraham's lying to condemn those who preach against false doctrine and lies? They will ask, "But how can you judge or know that we preached false doctrine? We never lie to our wives, our churches, and God. We have never been convicted of sins, adulteries, misappropriation of funds, or stealing. So, please don't falsely accuse us for lying .." I will tell them, If God has to wait until the false prophets committed adulteries, theft, or misappropriation of funds, He would never be able to judge anyone. Of course, we know that the Bible has never said that the serpent or the devil is a great liar because he committed adulteries or misappropriated funds. We know that Satan is a great liar not because Satan told us to blame our wives, blame our friends, blame our enemies, or blame ourselves too; Satan is a great liar because he told us to blame God, blame His words, or His commandments: Gen 3:1-4 KJV  Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?  (2)  And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:  (3)  But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.  (4)  And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: (5) For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Hence, the serpent will always tell us his story or interpretation which starts with the two words "But God .." What shall we say if he says the two words to us again, "But God ..  (doth know that you .. this .. and .. that .." We should tell him the three words instead, "But God said or it is written (Mat 4:1-10)" !  Mal 2:5-17 KJV  My covenant was with him of life and peace; and I gave them to him for the fear wherewith he feared me, and was afraid before my name.  (6)  The law of truth was in his mouth, and iniquity was not found in his lips: he walked with me in peace and equity, and did turn many away from iniquity.  (7)  For the priest's lips should keep knowledge, and they should seek the law at his mouth: for he is the messenger of the LORD of hosts.  (8)  But ye are departed out of the way; ye have caused many to stumble at the law; ye have corrupted the covenant of Levi, saith the LORD of hosts.  (9)  Therefore have I also made you contemptible and base before all the people, according as ye have not kept my ways, but have been partial in the law... (17) Ye have wearied the LORD with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied him? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil is good in the sight of the LORD, and he delighteth in them; or, Where is the God of judgment?   

I will tell them, We have so many Bible verses which tell us that God can be happy or pleased. Of course, if we can please Him by doing those Bible verses above, we can also displease Him by rejecting His words or making His commandments of none effect too. Hence, if a preacher insists and teaches others that his God can only be a happy God (no matter what he does, says, or teaches) and accuse all other fellow preachers for preaching an angry God, something is wrong? Why?

• It shows that either he did not read the Bible or he was blinded from seeing the true and living God as the God of the Old Testament and New Testament.
• he gives people the wrong impression that he cannot tell anyone to repent or keep God's commandments, lest he may end up preaching fear and condemnation to the sinners. In another words, he gives people the wrong impression that preaching of repentance or God's commandment is equivalent to preaching of condemnation and unreasonable demand. Absurd.
• I will ask him, Can God love? If God can love, He can hate too. He hates sin. If God can supply, He can demand or command too. It is ridiculous to argue that God can only love or smile. No, God can 'frown' too unless He is just a smiling photo, a dead image, or an idol worshiped by most of the pagan believers  
• Of course, we can always smile when we are pleased. But if we could only smile even when we were displeased, it means two things:

1. We had muscle cramp on our face, or
2. We were just putting on a 'false front' before others

God has no need to put on the 'false front'
I can understand why we may have to put on the 'false front' (and show all our false teeth and denture) whenever we are displeased. But something is wrong if God has to put on a 'false front' too whether He is pleased or displeased. It is ridiculous to preach a God who must always smile at us whether we do good or do bad, whether we do things that please Him or displease Him, whether ..  Yes, we know that, in the preaching of faith, it is not uncommon to preach the ridiculous and the unthinkable, but it won't be so ridiculous that we defies all Bible logics and sound doctrine about God!

Please preach God as God
Strictly speaking, God cannot smile or become angry because God is spirit. God has no hands or legs too. However, the Bible did tell us that He could show the expression of love to us like our earthly father with 'smiles, hands, legs, or actions'.  Luk 15:20 KJV  And he arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him, and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him. Of course, this is just a figurative manner of speech to show us that our heavenly Father would do all these things for us too. However, it would be ridiculous for us to constantly argue and criticize one another because of what we think about God with the way He smiles, feels, or acts. Of course, it is not wrong to think that God has two hands. But it would be absurd if we become so radical in our own thinking that we start to criticise all others who preach that God has more than two hands or God has legs too. That's why I would think that those who would preach a smiling God and criticise others for not preaching like them are trying to find fault. I will ask them, Which one of you has seen the smiles of God, the face of God, or the body of God? If you have not seen Him, you can't preach exactly how He smiles or how He moves. What makes you think that God cannot feel sad, angry, or displeased with the people?

Preachers, Are you sent to preach the goodnews to the world or to yourselves?
I will tell them, I won't dispute with you if you think that you are the righteous ones and therefore God cannot be angry with you. But you are not a preacher to the righteous ones or to yourselves, you are a preacher to the sinners of the world. You are called to preach the goodnews to the sinners.

• Luk 5:32 KJV  I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
• Joh 3:16-21 KJV  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.  (17)  For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.  (18)  He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.  (19)  And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.  (20)  For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.  (21)  But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. (Many would argue, But Jesus did not tell us to repent here, He just tell us to believe and we should be saved. I will tell them, Do you know what it means when you believe Jesus? It means you would repent, do works meet for repentance, do His will, His words, His commandments, and all that He teaches. Otherwise, you have not believed in Him. You may argue like the false prophets in Mat7:15-23, but no one is going to believe you.)

What did Jesus, John the Baptist, and Paul preach? Repentance, God's laws, and judgement ! 
Hence, the goodnews is not 'God would no longer judge the sinners or the world'; but, on the contrary, it should be 'God would judge the world, but, the goodnews is grace is still there for all sinners to repent, before the time of judgement'.

• Mat 3:1-10 KJV  In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea,  (2)  And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.  ..  (7)  But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?  (8)  Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:  (9)  And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.  (10)  And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
• Mat 4:17 KJV  From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
• Luk 13:5 KJV  I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
• Luk 16:27-31 KJV  Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:  (28)  For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.  (29)  Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.  (30)  And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.  (31)  And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
• Luk 24:45-47 KJV  Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, .. (47)  And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
• Act 17:30-31 KJV  And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:  (31)  Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
• Act 26:15-20 KJV  And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.  (16)  But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen,..  (18)  To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, ..  (19)  Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision:  (20)  But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance. (Jesus had appeared to Paul and commanded him to tell people to repent and do works meet for repentance. Please think, Will Jesus appear later to ask a certain radical grace preacher to preach grace only or something better to replace repentance? No, they did not get the vision, dream, or voice, from Jesus, they got it from somebody else !)

From the Bible verses above, we know that Jesus, John the Baptist, and Paul did not preach that sinners should receive grace and full stop; instead, they preached that the sinners should repent because of God's grace. Hence, they did not just preach grace; they preached that the sinners should repent because of grace. They are not grace preachers; they are repentance preachers.
Many will argue, "But Jesus did not tell the adulterous woman to repent. He just preached or showed grace to her.." I will tell them, Please read your Bible again. Jesus did not preach grace to her; instead, He told her to repent (or sin no more) because of grace.

• Joh 8:8-11 KJV  And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.  (9)  And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.  (10)  When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?  (11)  She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

They will argue again, "But this Bible verse is not about repentance. This Bible verse is about grace and no more law. This Bible verse tells us that there is no more law and commandment for us. Jesus wrote on the stony ground to show the Pharisees that none of us could keep the law and, hence, one by one, starting from the older ones, they left with shame in their hearts.."
I will ask them, Do you know that Jesus had been telling the sinners to repent and His disciples to keep God's laws and commandments? Hence, this Bible verse ALONE cannot prove that there is no more repentance or God's law for us. I do not know what the Lord wrote on the floor. But if he wrote the law or the Ten Commandments on the floor, it means that He wanted all the Pharisees and the people to have God's laws in their hearts. You may think that He would write the laws on the floor just to shame them who were lawless, but I would think that He wrote the laws on the floor to show us that He would one day fulfil it so that all of us would keep His laws from the least to the greatest.

• Heb 8:10-13 KJV  For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:  (11)  And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.  (12)  For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.  (13)  In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

Hence, it is God's will to restore the laws of God in the hearts of His people from the least to the greatest, Unlike the Pharisees who departed from the Lord, beginning from the elders to the last, with sins, guilt, and lawlessness in their hearts, the people of God will be forgiven of their sins and lawlessness and they will be taught by the Lord with greater consciousness of God's laws in their hearts and minds too. But, if we would just focus on our guilt, lawlessness, and sins and think that we can never keep His laws, we would never keep His laws or think of His laws in our minds. We may think that it is great to think of no more law, commandment, or repentance; but unknowingly we could have departed from God's laws and covenant, like the Pharisees too.


Preaching of repentance and judgement of God is fundamental but it is still important to all the sinners and believers 
Hence, I will ask them, Would you tell the people that God has judgement against sins and sinners, and preach like the Lord, John the Baptist, and Paul? Instead of focusing on whether God can smile or God can become angry, why don't you focus on the truth and the fundamental principles of the doctrine of Christ. The truth is God is love and God would still judge the world with wrath. That's why all the sinners and believers must know the basic truth about repentance, eternal life, judgement, and resurrection in the doctrine of Christ:

• Heb 5:11-13 KJV  Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.  (12)  For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.  (13)  For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. Heb 6:1-6 KJV  Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,  (2)  Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.  (3)  And this will we do, if God permit.  (4)  For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,  (5)  And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,  (6)  If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
  

Of course, there is nothing wrong to preach the doctrine of Christ which includes repentance and judgement. But if you tell me that I must preach it with lot of smiles, I must say, I don't know how to do it. Of course, it is difficult to smile if we need to preach the truth of repentance, God's warnings, and judgement to the sinners. It is difficult to smile if we need to preach like Jonah or Paul. Of course, I could probably smiles more often if I could just preach a happy God, tell them that to repent is to believe only, or deceive them that there is no more God's laws and judgement; but I would instantly become a false prophet ! I will tell the radical grace preachers, Yes I may not smile very well, neither can I preach a smiling God as well as you; but that does not mean that I am less favoured by God. Preaching without any smile is not necessarily always condemnation and judgement too.  


Preaching or speaking with the rod is not necessarily always condemnation and judgement 
Many will still argue, "But do you know that Moses misrepresented God as an angry God? Do you know that the price he had to pay was so severe that he could not enter the promised land after he beat the rock with the rod of God ?"

• Num 20:7-12 KJV  And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,  (8)  Take the rod, and gather thou the assembly together, thou, and Aaron thy brother, and speak ye unto the rock before their eyes  ... (10) And Moses and Aaron gathered the congregation together before the rock, and he said unto them, Hear now, ye rebels; must we fetch you water out of this rock?  (11)  And Moses lifted up his hand, and with his rod he smote the rock twice: and the water came out abundantly, and the congregation drank, and their beasts also.  (12)  And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them.

I will tell them, If you think that preaching of repentance and God's commandments to the sinners is beating the rock, you have quoted the above Bible verses out of its context. Moses and Aaron failed to sanctify God (or honoured God) in the eyes of the Israelites not because they were angry; but because they did not totally believe or obey God's command to speak with the rod. Instead of speaking with the rod, they beat with the rod. It was more likely that they offended God because of this than because of being angry or because of beating the rock. Please think, Who can be meeker than Moses and more patient than him to have tolerated the stiff-necked Israelites? I don't think God would use Moses' lesson to show us that we must be meeker than Moses so that we will tolerate all kinds of sinners, adulterers, cheaters, liars, rapists, wolves, and the false prophets in our churches by giving them the 'water' graciously. Have we forgotten how Moses had interceded for the Israelites who worshipped the golden calf when God was about to destroy them in His wrath? If being angry with the stick-necked people or the false prophets would cause Moses and Elijah to sin, does it mean that God has sinned too? This is ridiculous.
They will still argue, "Of course, God was angry with Moses not just because He was angry with His beloved chosen people; but because Moses in his anger hit the rock which is a type of Christ. He should have been gracious when speaking to Christ and ask for the water from Him. But, instead Moses hit Christ with the rod. And this had become an unpardonable offence which stopped Him from entering the promised land at that time. But, of course, Moses has now been forgiven or else he won't appear at the Mount of transfiguration with Christ.." 
I will tell them, I have said that the reason why Moses could not enter the promised land was not because of being angry with the stiff-necked people or hitting the rock; but because of his disobedience to God's command to simply speak to the rock. It didn't matter if he hit a rock, a stone, a bird, a tree, or a man; but if he disobey God's clear command to him, he would be judged. 


What is the rod? 
I would think that the rod is God's words in the form of authority. When we speak with the rod, we speak with God's authority. However, if it is the manna, it is God's words which feed. Hence, the three objects in the ark of covenant could be the Word of God in the form of manna, tablets, and the rod. I will ask them, If this is the case, do you still argue and say,  "Since the mercy seat is above the three objects in the ark of covenant and therefore grace and mercy is higher than God's words and God's commandments"? No, please think with your anointed brain, How can the gift of God be greater than the Word or God who dwells in us now:

• Joh 1:1-14 KJV  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. .. (14) And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Will God still tell us to speak with His rod today? Yes, absolutely we can speak the words of God which feeds, provides, protects, guides, corrects, judges, and cuts too, depending on the type of the audience we will speak to. However, if we are asked to do so, we must believe or speak in a way to sanctify (honour) Him and His words, whether we speak out His words as the manna, commandments, or rod. We must do so in a way that should never make His words (or commands) of none effect too. If we speak with the rod or God's authority, we don't have to yell, scream, speak vulgarities, or threaten; we just speak His words or commands plainly. We don't add or change His words with our own arguments, reasoning, or philosophies to persuade the people too.

They will argue, "But the commandments are covered under the mercy seat. On top of it, God wants us to apply the blood to ensure that we don't have to see any law, have any law, and keep any law." I will tell them, Your interpretation is contrary to God's will to have His laws written in our hearts and minds (Heb 8:10, 10:16). It shows that it is just your own perverted explanation; not God's explanation.

• Heb 8:10-12 LITV  Because this is the covenant which I will covenant with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord, giving My Laws into their mind, and I will write them on their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be My people."  (11)  "And they shall no more teach each one their neighbor, and each one his brother, saying, Know the Lord; because all shall know Me, from the least of them to their great ones.  (12)  For I will be merciful to their unrighteousnesses, and I will not at all remember their sins and their lawless deeds."
• Heb 10:16-17 LITV  "This is the covenant which I will covenant to them after those days, says the Lord: Giving My Laws on their hearts, and I will write them on their minds;"  (17)  also He adds, "I will not at all still remember their sins" and their lawlessnesses.

Didn't God's words show us clearly that the covenant of the blood is to cover our sins and lawlessness; not His laws. You have got it all reversed. In fact, God wants us not only to see His laws, have His laws, and keep His laws; He wants us to think of His laws, do His laws, and teach His laws. Yes, I know what you think. You would say, "But the Lord told us in Heb 8:11 that we shall no more teach His laws.".  However, please don't pervert His words again. Yes, I agree that Heb 8:11 did tell us that we shall no more teach one another, 'Know the Lord' or 'Know Jesus'. It did not say that we shall not do and teach any law. In fact, Jesus told us that we must still do and teach His words or God's commandments. We must not teach the people just "KNOW the Lord, KNOW the Lord"; but we teach the people to DO His laws.

I will tell them, Please think with your anointed brain again, If the ark was built to cover or hide His commandments from the people, would God cover His manna and His rod from the people too? No, if His words, His commandments, or His laws can feed, supply, correct, instruct, judge, and rule with authority, why should He cover or hide His manna or rod from the people too?

• Psa 23:4 KJV  Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
• Psa 89:31-32 KJV  If they break my statutes, and keep not my commandments;  (32)  Then will I visit their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with stripes.
• Psa 110:2 KJV  The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.
• Pro 22:15 KJV  Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.
• Pro 23:13-14 KJV  Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.  (14)  Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.
• Pro 29:15 KJV  The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame.
• Isa 11:1-5 KJV  And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:  (2)  And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;  (3)  And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:  (4)  But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.  (5)  And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.
• Eze 20:37-38 KJV  And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant:  (38)  And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
• Mic 7:14 KJV  Feed thy people with thy rod, the flock of thine heritage, which dwell solitarily in the wood, in the midst of Carmel: let them feed in Bashan and Gilead, as in the days of old.
• Rev 2:27 KJV  And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
• Rev 12:5 KJV  And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
• Rev 19:13-16 KJV  And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.  (14)  And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.  (15)  And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.  (16)  And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.   

What do we see  when we read the above Bible verses about the God with a rod or Moses with a rod? Do we see an angry God? No, contrary to what most preachers said, I see protection, providence, and guidance similar to the rod of a shepherd. Contrary to the belief that an Old Testament God is always more condemning and more judgmental than the God of grace in the New Testament, I see God of the Old Testament as the same. I see the God of the Old Testament as always being loving and kind as the God of the New Testament. He is the same, today, yesterday, and forever. However, to the stiff-necked people like the Jews, God would always be condemning and angry without any cause. They would still complain and murmur against God for not being good enough even if they were introduced to the God of grace or the God of the New Testament.
I will tell those who still argue that their God of the New Testament without the rod or any law is kinder and better, Have you read the sword that came out from the mouth of the Lord in Revelation? If you think that preaching of the rod to the sinners or believers is too condemning, how about the sharp sword which was shown to the churches in Revelation? No, we should never think that the God of the Old Testament is more condemning because of the wrong impression false prophets have placed on God. God is the same; but different types of sinners or believers see God differently. However, if we, the sons of God, would still feel intimidated by His sword, something is wrong. We ought to repent. Of course, we don't preach that God will remove all the wolves or the false prophets from the churches; but we would surely preach that the sword of God and the rod of God would still remain with the churches for the purpose:that you and I should know:

• Rev 2:12 KJV  And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges;
• Rev 2:16 KJV Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

If you still insist that we must preach only a God of all smiles and happiness (with no more law, no more judgement, no more need of repentance), will you still insist to preach only a smiling Jesus with the sharp sword coming out of His mouth in Revelation? It would look weird for a smiling Jesus with the sword in His mouth. Yes, you may conclude that the book of Revelation about the sword of God in the mouth of Jesus is not suitable for the young believers because of its condemnation images, but I don't think this is the way to deceive the people. You will need to come up with better reasons. 

Don't be the preachers of the world; be the preachers of God
I don't have time to quote all the Bible verses to show who God is and why God can be a God of wrath or a God of smiles. However, common sense tells me that believers who just want to believe or worship only a happy God or smiling God are still deep in pagan's belief. It reminds me of my parents who worshipped the idols. I remember my parents had this big smiling budda. Everyday I would see 'him' smiling at me. I had never asked my parents why 'he' would smile, or why they would want to worship only a smiling buddha.
However, I know the answer now! I realise that most people would just want to worship only a God of their choice; in another words, they would just want to believe what they want to believe; not the true and God. They want some kind of security in form of an idol. Hence, naturally they would worship only the God who would smile at them or prosper them.

Today preachers are not exempted from that temptation to worship the God of their own choice too. They could have subtly preached idols into the life of the people. Unknowingly many have transgressed or violated the laws and commandments of God which is the first commandment. They have lost their first love:

• Rev 2:2-5 KJV  I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:  (3)  And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted.  (4)  Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.  (5)  Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.

Of course, God is love, God is gracious, but God is also a jealous God and we can please Him or displease Him:

• Col 1:10-23 KJV  That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;  (11)  Strengthened with all might, according to his glorious power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness;  (12)  Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:  (13)  Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:  (14)  In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:  (15)  Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:  (16)  For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:  (17)  And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.  (18)  And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.  (19)  For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;  (20)  And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.  (21)  And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled  (22)  In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:  (23)  If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

What does this Bible passage tell us? It means, If God can be pleased, He can be displeased also. If He can be happy, He can be angry too. Have we preached the true and living God we know from Paul or another God who can only smile at all kinds of sinners irrespective how they would sin? You be the judge? Or may God judge us as He will? Can we offend the people if we preach a God who can judge us according to His will or commandments? The rebellious, the lawless, or the radical believers may keep saying that God can never judge, but they will become speechless one day as they realise that God can judge:

• Mat 22:12 KJV  And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

It means that they will be shocked to realise that their impression, opinion, or image of a smiling God is not true after all, especially after they realised that they are lawless without the glory or the command of God.


The prodigal son would love the God of this world - a happy and a lawless God
Many of my non-Christian friends told me, "What's so great about your smiling God or happy God? Ours is not just a smiling God; ours is a laughing God or hilarious God. Haven't you learnt from us? Our God is much more gracious than yours because our God won't judge us. We judge ourselves. If we do bad, we are not punished with eternal death. We don't have hell to torment us; we will just reincarnate and disappear from this world.."
If we tell them that we don't believe in such a God, they would mock at us, "Your God is too judgemental. Our God never tell us to repent. You should have learnt from your radical grace brothers. They have believed in  a smiling God and their God has the same personality which would love us, bless us, and prosper us; not to judge us."
I will tell them, Those who preach that God cannot judge are not our brothers. Yes, they could be our brothers; but they are still the 'prodigal sons' who have not finished enjoying their lives in this world yet. They are not thinking of coming home yet. They are thinking that our Father's home has too many laws and commandments for them to do and keep. Hence, for the moment, they may still think that the world outside is a better home for them because it has no more God's laws and commandments for them to obey. They think that to obey and to do all God's commandments, like his elder brother, is a terrible life:

• Luk 15:13-31 KJV And not many days after the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance with riotous living. .. (25) Now his elder son was in the field: and as he came and drew nigh to the house, he heard musick and dancing. ..  (28)  And he was angry, and would not go in: therefore came his father out, and intreated him.  (29)  And he answering said to his father, Lo, these many years do I serve thee, neither transgressed I at any time thy commandment: and yet thou never gavest me a kid, that I might make merry with my friends:  (30)  But as soon as this thy son was come, which hath devoured thy living with harlots, thou hast killed for him the fatted calf.  (31)  And he said unto him, Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine.

The answer from the elder son above seemed to indicate that he might become the next prodigal son who might depart from his Father's house or from all his Father's commandments because he thought that all his years of serving God and keeping God's commandments could not get as much rewards as those who sinned like his younger brother. Guess what, he might give up serving God and keeping God's commandments.
All these years, we think that the prodigal sons can only be the younger sons, but do we realise that there are now many 'prodigal sons' who are the elder sons too. They could have departed from the churches where they once belonged, into the world where they think that they can now find better freedom because of a new and happy God who has no more laws and commandments for them. This happy God who can never become angry with their sins or lawlessness could be the prosperity God or the God of favour that is now preached by most of the radical grace preachers today.


Mother of Grace or Goddess of Mercy?
I have heard radical grace preachers who argued that they are of the same Father but of different mother because they believed grace or preached grace. They boast that they believe and inherit God's blessing through the same spiritual father Abraham, but they are much more superior than other Christians because they are born of a different mother who is the 'mother of grace' (Sarah). I will ask them, What makes you think that you are more superior because of the 'mother of grace' or your belief of another heavenly mother? Does it justify your false accusation against all other brethren who do and teach the law of God? Can you conclude rashly that all who do and teach God's laws and commandments as the slaves of the law under the bondage of the Hagar? This shows that you have very little knowledge of God's covenants. Paul used the metaphor of the free woman and the bond woman to illustrate two difference laws or covenants, not to tell us which heavenly mother we belong to:

• Gal 4:21-26 KJV  Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?  (22)  For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.  (23)  But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.  (24)  Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.  (25)  For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.  (26)  But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Isn't this Bible passage clear enough? Paul compared between two different covenants or two different laws, not between  lawlessness and law, or grace and law. He meant that we are now under a different covenant or different law and, hence, we are still bond under a different law according to law of Christ - a better law to obey and live under God's righteousness:

• Rom 6:4-7 KJV  Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.  (5)  For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:  (6)  Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.  (7)  For he that is dead is freed from sin. 
• Rom 6:12-13 KJV  Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.  (13)  Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
• Rom 6:16-22 KJV  Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?  (17)  But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.  (18)  Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.  (19)  I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.  (20)  For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.  (21)  What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.  (22)  But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

Under the law of Christ or the law of the New Covenant, we are no longer servant of sin; we are now servant of righteousness. Hence, if we were sons of Hagar, it does not mean that when we are the sons of Sarah, we are now totally free from all kinds of laws and have no more law. However, we are under a better law to obey and to do the righteousness of God. If you read all those highlighted words in red above, you should know that we must still yield or exercise our will to do it. We cannot give people the excuse that they can just do nothing because Christ has fulfilled all things under the New Covenant. Otherwise, what's the difference if we preach the 'mother of grace' like the 'goddess of mercy' who has no law or commandment for its followers?
Hence, I would think that it is ok if preachers would use the example of Sarah and Hagar to describe two different covenants. However, something is wrong if they argue vehemently that, although they share the same Heavenly Father with us, they have a very different Mother. Their Mother is the Mother of Grace or Jesus Christ. When they said, "Grace is not a doctrine, Grace is Jesus Christ", they could have unconsciously worshiped Grace or their Mother of Grace as Jesus Christ. We can tell why this type of  preaching or theology can never be the Bible doctrine from the mainstream churches. It's because we know that its root comes directly from most occults or pagan religions which worship the Mother God or Mother of Mercies. Hence, I am not surprised that the preachers of this 'dark' doctrine could have a secret past or occult background which is not known by many. They could have been radically or deeply rooted in occult practice, occult philosophies, or occult bondage, before they thought they were finally delivered by 'grace', by a shift in their occult thinking, by just a change of mind, or by metanoia (repentance). I am also not surprised that they would downplay the importance of God's commandments and teach Bible doctrine as a form of horoscope or as a form similar to their occult practice in the past. They think that when they say that horoscope is from the Bible, they would feel less guilty to have believed in horoscope without renouncing it. I will tell them, Yes, the question is not whether Horoscope is from the Bible or not from the Bible; the question is: Do you still worship Jesus like your Horoscope? If you think that Horoscope is biblical and believe that Horoscope can be justified as a way of Bible revelation, you would put Jesus Christ into your horoscope and preach Him as one of your stars in the horoscope. He becomes one of 'the genies in your bottle'. Yes, you may think that you have repented and believed like Simon, but deep inside, you have not truly repented yet. You are just the worshiper of a new Mother, new God, or new Star, still heavily bonded in your old occult practices, philosophies, and bitterness (against God and His commandments):

• Act 8:9-24 KJV  But there was a certain man, called Simon, which beforetime in the same city used sorcery, and bewitched the people of Samaria, giving out that himself was some great one:  (10)  To whom they all gave heed, from the least to the greatest, saying, This man is the great power of God.  (11)  And to him they had regard, because that of long time he had bewitched them with sorceries.  (12)  But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.  (13)  Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.  (14)  Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:  (15)  Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:  (16)  (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)  (17)  Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.  (18)  And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money,  (19)  Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost.  (20)  But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.  (21)  Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God.  (22)  Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.  (23)  For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity.  (24)  Then answered Simon, and said, Pray ye to the Lord for me, that none of these things which ye have spoken come upon me.      

Of course, God can still be angry; otherwise He won't judge the world with His wrath
I will say, Yes, it is right if we preach it in heaven (which is unlikely). But if we preach it in Sodom and Gomorrha or in the world where there are still lots of sinners, something is wrong. He is a false God if He is a God who cannot judge or condemn any sin or any sinner. It is a certainly false gospel too if it is preached without the need of repentance, keeping of God's commandments, and doing of God's will.

• Gen 2:16-17 KJV  And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:  (17)  But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
• Gen 3:2-4 KJV  And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:  (3)  But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.  (4)  And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

However, today many preachers would just want to preach a happy God who cannot judge when God had already said He will judge.

• 1Pe 4:5 KJV  Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead.
• Rev 6:10 KJV  And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
• Rev 19:11 KJV  And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

Hence, I feel comfort, not condemnation, to know a God who can judge, how about you? Many will still argue, "No, you are pointing people to an angry God or a judging God. No, God told me to preach to the world and the people that He is not judging their country, He is not judging the world, and He is not judging them.. Do you know that God swore to Noah that He would never never judge the world again and He testifies it with the rainbow?" 

• Gen 9:13-17 KJV  ..  (16)  And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.  (17)  And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth.
• Isa 54:9 KJV  For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee.

I will tell them, Yes, God would not judge the world with water; but He did not say that He would not judge the world with fire. Yes, God swore to Noah; but can the sinners or false prophets argue that God can no longer be angry with them or judge them? If you think so, please read your Bible. You will find that God could still be angry with His people, many years after the flood.

• Exo 32:7-11 KJV  And the LORD said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves:  (8)  They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them: they have made them a molten calf, and have worshipped it, and have sacrificed thereunto, and said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.  (9)  And the LORD said unto Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiffnecked people:  (10)  Now therefore let me alone, that my wrath may wax hot against them, and that I may consume them: and I will make of thee a great nation.  (11)  And Moses besought the LORD his God, and said, LORD, why doth thy wrath wax hot against thy people, which thou hast brought forth out of the land of Egypt with great power, and with a mighty hand?
• 1Ki 11:9-11 KJV  And the LORD was angry with Solomon, because his heart was turned from the LORD God of Israel, which had appeared unto him twice,  (10)  And had commanded him concerning this thing, that he should not go after other gods: but he kept not that which the LORD commanded.  (11)  Wherefore the LORD said unto Solomon, Forasmuch as this is done of thee, and thou hast not kept my covenant and my statutes, which I have commanded thee, I will surely rend the kingdom from thee, and will give it to thy servant.

Does it mean that God has broken His vow when He got angry again after the flood? No, we can't blackmail God even if we were eloquent false prophets who like to argue with Him and find fault with His commandments and judgement. God is too smart for us. Of course, He can still get angry and judge the world to our disappointment, without bringing the flood; but this time, with fire:

• Luk 12:49 KJV  I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?
• Luk 17:26-30 KJV  And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.  (27)  They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.  (28)  Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;  (29)  But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.  (30)  Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
• 1Co 3:13-17 KJV  Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.  (14)  If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward...
• 2Pe 3:2-7 KJV  ..  (3)  Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,  (4)  And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.  .. (6)  Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:  (7)  But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.. 
• 2Pe 3:7-10 KJV  But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men...(9) The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.  (10)  But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up...

Does it mean that, if Jesus, Paul, or Peter preach about the fire, the wrath of God, and His judgement, they were preaching an angry God who loves to condemn ? Does it mean that if we preach like them, we have become condemnation preachers too? No, only the children of disobedience in the end time would murmur and argue against the judgement and the wrath of God: 

• Col 3:4-7 KJV  When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.  (5)  Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:  (6)  For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:  (7)  In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.
• Eph 5:5-9 KJV  For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.  (6)  Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.  (7)  Be not ye therefore partakers with them.  (8)  For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:  (9)  (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
• Rev 6:16-17 KJV  And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:  (17)  For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
• Rev 14:19 KJV  And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

I will ask them, Do you read Revelation? Do you know that the book of Revelation is the book full of the wrath of God. It has many verses on the wrath of God and judgement on the people. Does it mean that we preach an angry God if we read and preach from Revelation? Yes, probably. But this is probably what God wants us to preach when we are very near to the time and accounts written in the book of Revelation. God would want us to issue the warning or the wake up call to the world, instead of blinding them with a false peace:

• 1Th 5:1-3 KJV  But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.  (2)  For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.  (3)  For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

 
Is it right to preach the gospel with a God who cannot judge or condemn any more?
I will tell them, Does it mean that we are lying if we tell the people or preach that God will judge the world, the countries, and all of His people:

• Act 10:42 KJV  And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.
• Act 17:31-34 KJV  Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.  (32)  And when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked: and others said, We will hear thee again of this matter.  (33)  So Paul departed from among them.  (34)  Howbeit certain men clave unto him, and believed: among the which was Dionysius the Areopagite, and a woman named Damaris, and others with them.
• 1Co 11:31-32 KJV  For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.  (32)  But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.
• Heb 10:26-31 KJV  For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,  (27)  But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.  (28)  He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:  (29)  Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?  (30)  For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.  (31)  It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. (But can we twist it and argue that this warning is not for God's people? No, it says very clearly that God will judge His people; not other people. When He used the comparison of a sorer punishment, He confirmed again that He was comparing and warning two of His people - one who despised Moses' law under the Old Covenant, and another who will dishonour the Spirit of grace under the New Covenant. Please think, who were able to despised Moses' law? Of course, nobody except the Jews or God's people who were given the law? Similarly, who can dishonour the Spirit of grace? Of course, no one, except God's people who have been given the grace of God too?)
• Heb 12:23 KJV  To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
• Heb 13:4 KJV  Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.
• 1Pe 4:3-5 KJV  For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries:  (4)  Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you:  (5)  Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead.

Hence, I will tell the people that it is still not too late to repent. But I would never lie and tell them that God will not judge or cannot judge. I may tell them that they are not doomed yet. But I would never lie and say that they can never die even if they depart from the laws of God, live in lawlessness, and refuse to repent. Only the devil will give his lawless promise to the people (especially God's people, the churches, or the 'virgins of Christ' who have already received the laws of God or the glory of God in their hearts):

• Gen 3:2-4 KJV ..(4)  And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
• Heb 8:10 KJV  For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
• 2Co 11:2-4 KJV  For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.  (3)  But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.  (4)  For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
• Mat 25:1-4 KJV  Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.  (2)  And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.  (3)  They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them ..  (10) And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.  (11)  Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.  (12)  But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.  (13)  Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh. (We are already in the end time where there is gross darkness all over the world. Hence, we should not give up the light or glory which will not only show us the path to the 'door'; but also work as the mark and indication of a virgin's readiness to meet her Bridegroom.)   

   
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