K135. Why is charity and obedience to God's commandment the end of faith? (1)

Faith must produce charity, and charity must produce works which show obedience to God's commandments. If faith without work is dead, so is charity:
1Co 13:1-13 KJV  Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.  (2)  And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing .. (13) And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

faith or grace is not an end by itself
Many pondered, "Why did Paul say that the greatest is charity? Shouldn't faith or grace be the greatest because our salvation is based on faith and grace alone?"
I will say, Yes, our salvation is based on grace through faith in the blood of Jesus Christ. But faith or grace is not the greatest until we see obedience to God's command and charity in the fulfilment of God's laws which is the end of all things:
1Sa 15:20-24 KJV And Saul said unto Samuel, Yea, I have obeyed the voice of the LORD, and have gone the way which the LORD sent me, and have brought Agag the king of Amalek, and have utterly destroyed the Amalekites. .. .. (22) And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.  (23)  For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.  (24)  And Saul said unto Samuel, I have sinned: for I have transgressed the commandment of the LORD, and thy words: because I feared the people, and obeyed their voice.
1Pe 1:4-10 KJV  To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,  (5)  Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time .. (7) That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:  (8)  Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:  (9)  Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.  (10)  Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
1Ti 1:5-7 KJV  Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:  (6)  From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling;  (7)  Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.
Rom 10:4 KJV  For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
Rom 13:8-14 KJV  Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.  (9)  For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.  (10)  Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.  (11)  And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.  (12)  The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.  (13)  Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.  (14)  But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

A New Testament believer today can still sin, and even become a false prophet like Saul
Did you read what Samuel said to Saul in 1Sa 15:23 above, when he said, ".. For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft.. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king"?
When Saul disobeyed God's commandment, he was rebuked by Samuel and considered as having rejected the word of the Lord even Saul thought that he still had regard for God's commandments. Many hyper grace people may boast that they still keep the word of God and argue that they have 'high regard' for God's laws. But their disobedience or disregard of God's commandment shows clearly that they have not only rejected God's word; they have rejected God. If Samuel were still around today, he would still say the same thing to them even if they can argue like Saul and say that they have kept the word of the Lord. Many think that they can never sin if they are God's anointed one or God's favoured one. But if they disobeyed without doing the will of God, they have sinned like Saul, regardless of how much they could do, think, confess, or give thanks, to justify themselves. This warning is still applicable to us who are washed or bought by the blood of Jesus Christ under the New Covenant:
Mat 7:21-22 KJV  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.  (22)  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
1Jn 3:3-4 LITV  And everyone having this hope on Him purifies himself even as that One is pure.  (4)  Everyone practicing sin also practices lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.
John defined sin as practicing or doing thing which is against the law or commandment of God. Hence, if we disobey God, we sin. No one can boast that they can never sin; but if we sin, God will still forgive us if we will confess it to God in repentance and humility (1 John 1:9). There is more grace given to us today when it is compared with Saul's time, but it does not mean that grace will exempt us from repentance and confessing our sins to God.

We will know the false prophets by their 'fruits' (by their false obedience)
As we move nearer and nearer to the end time, we begin to see more and more truth in the Bible verses above. Many false prophets can show or prove much faith, obedience, or 'fruit" in 'whatever' they believe in today. However, if king Saul could obey God wrongly and prophesy under the Old Covenant (1Sa 10:11, 18:10), the false prophets today can make the same mistake and prophesy under the New Covenant too. If the Pharisees would teach their 'corban' law (Mar 7:11) and doctrine under the Old Covenant to put the Jews under their bondages, the false prophets today can devise their own fantasy law, their own 'holy communion' law, their own tithing law, their own confession law, their own positive and effortless thinking, their own mind changing philosophy or false repentance, and their own promises under the New Covenant to put us under their bondages too. Hence, today we do not just believe in any preacher who has faith to prosper or heal (even if they claim that they can raise the dead and do many great miracles in His name); we should ask ourselves, What do they preach in His name? Do they really obey God in His name? How do they prosper with faith in His name? Why do they want to raise the dead and do many miracles in His name? Are they anointed to preach the revolution of Jesus Christ or their own revolution in His name? Or are they anointed just to live like the kings and princes in His name?
If they always argue and say, "Of course, we can always preach better than others in His name. It is because we are God's favourites, God beloved, and God's anointed. God would just want to prosper us and all the sinners, start the great revolution, and make all the churches jealous of us ..", very likely they cannot preach true repentance or true charity. Even if they insist that they can do some charity work or that they are very 'humble', they do it just to cover their wrong doctrine or wrong motives. Hence, they may argue vehemently that they have charity or humility in their speeches, but we know that they have no charity in their minds or motives.
Now please think, If they are false prophets because they did not do God's work with charity and integrity in their hearts or speeches, can they still be God's preachers if they would just want to preach their own law, their own doctrine, their own faith, their own philosophy, their own confession, their own revolution, or their rebellion and lawlessness? No, if they have no obedience, they are not God's preachers (even if they vehemently argue that they are the 'Anointed' or 'Christ' who come in His name, or repeatedly say ".. as Christ is so are we" or "as God is so are we", "as King Solomon is so are we", "as Joseph is so are we", "as prosperity is so are we"  .. ):
Mat 24:4-26 KJV  And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.  (5)  For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many .. (23) Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.  (24)  For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.  (25)  Behold, I have told you before.  (26)  Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

What is the sequence or process of our obedience to God
If you have read the first few paragraphs of my post at the top, you will know that faith, grace, charity, work, and obedience are in the process or life journey of a true believer. Strictly speaking, we cannot omit or take away faith, grace, or any one of them from the life of a believer. They are not only necessary; they are connected and tied closely together and they follow the normal sequence of the process:

  Faith > grace > charity > work > obedience

It should always start from faith and end up in obedience to God. Of course, there could be exception or variation. However, we can say that men will always start from faith in God, even if it is just a small little faith like that of a mustard seed. We can have faith before we can truly obey God. But faith must ultimately lead to obedience; or else it is not faith. It is also God's grace that we can start from faith because God knows our rebellion and sin condition. He knows that we are the sinners or fallen creature who may find difficulty in obeying Him perfectly and immediately. Hence, if we claim that we can jump to obedience immediately without faith, our obedience could be like the obedience of the Pharisees or king Saul which could be blind obedience, false obedience, self-interpreted obedience, or self-righteousness. King Saul did not have true faith in God; he had more faith in himself, in greed, or in men. He thought that he had obeyed God when he spared the best of the sheep and of the oxen for God (1Sa 15:15). Samuel had to tell king Saul bluntly that it was not obedience; it was his excuse to cover his hidden greed, his fear of men, or his rebellion.
Now when we have faith, we will have grace which is given to us before we can do anything. When we have faith and experience the grace of God, we will feel the love of God. We will feel like the woman in the Gospel:
Joh 8:11-12 KJV  She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.  (12)  Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
When we feel the love of God, we will start to love, have charity, do the works of God, and obey God.

There must be fruits in the life of a believer
I must say that the works of God in the life of a true believer is not the works of the law of Moses or the law of the Pharisees. They are not self effort too. They are good efforts or good works which are necessary to show ultimate obedience to God. When men start to do the words of Christ and obey God through Christ, men will be once again reconciled to God, after being separated from God by Adam's disobedience. There will be fruits again in the garden of heaven:

  Faith > grace > charity > work > obedience > fruits

Mat 7:19-20 KJV  Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.  (20)  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Mat 13:7-9 KJV  And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them:  (8)  But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.  (9)  Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Mar 4:26-31 KJV  And he said, So is the kingdom of God, as if a man should cast seed into the ground;  (27)  And should sleep, and rise night and day, and the seed should spring and grow up, he knoweth not how.  (28)  For the earth bringeth forth fruit of herself; first the blade, then the ear, after that the full corn in the ear.  (29)  But when the fruit is brought forth, immediately he putteth in the sickle, because the harvest is come.  (30)  And he said, Whereunto shall we liken the kingdom of God? or with what comparison shall we compare it?  (31)  It is like a grain of mustard seed, which, when it is sown in the earth, is less than all the seeds that be in the earth:
Joh 4:34-36 KJV  Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.  (35)  Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest.  (36)  And he that reapeth receiveth wages, and gathereth fruit unto life eternal: that both he that soweth and he that reapeth may rejoice together.
Joh 12:24-25 KJV  Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.  (25)  He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.
Joh 15:2-4 KJV  Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.  (3)  Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.  (4)  Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me .. (8) Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples .. (16) Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
Rom 6:20-22 KJV  For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.  (21)  What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.  (22)  But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

Repentance will start the process of faith
Many still ask, "Yes, we can accept the process of faith to produce fruit. But where is repentance and born again in that process? I can't see any repentance in the picture."
I will tell them, Repentance is always there in the process of faith in every believer. The process of faith .. to obedience .. and to produce the fruits can only start after repentance and born again. Hence, a non-believer can never have or start the process of faith until they have repented. Repentance will keep that process on-going and running until there is fruit. Hence, repentance is still a live long experience in a believer's life.
Luk 13:5-9 KJV  I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.  (6)  He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.  (7)  Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?  (8)  And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it:  (9)  And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.
Luk 3:8-9 KJV  Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.  (9)  And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Hence, Jesus came not only to bring life; He came to bring obedience and fruit to the life of a true believer too. Under the Old Testament, the Jews were taught to obey through the law or the works of the law.

  Law >    sacrifices     >  works (of law)  > obedience
          & circumcision

Rom 7:4 KJV  Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
Under the revolution of Jesus Christ, we start from repentance and faith without the law of Moses. But, ultimately, we must still have fruits and obedience to God's commandments (at the end of faith or grace):

  Faith > grace > charity > work > obedience > fruits

This is why I said charity and obedience is at the end of faith and I believe that I have said enough to answer the question at the top: K135. Why is charity and obedience to God's commandment the end of faith?

There are two works and two laws under the covenants
I have shown you that there are works in the process of faith to produce obedience. The process of faith will work with grace and charity to produce works and obedience under the law of Christ. However, many hyper grace believers are confused that the works in the life of a believer are still the works of the law.  But the Bible has shown us that there are not only two types of laws; but two types of works also:

1. Under the law of Moses, the works of the law are shown as sacrifices, circumcision, rituals of worship, and many temple rules.
  Law >    sacrifices     > works (of law)  > obedience
          & circumcision

2. However, Under the law of Christ, the works of a New Covenant believer are works of faith according to the letter of James:
  Faith > grace > charity > works (of faith) > obedience

Jas 2:17-21 KJV  Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.  (18)  Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. (19) Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. (20)  But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?  (21)  Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? .. (26) For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
James was probably challenging all the hyper grace believers to show their faith during his time.. and he would show them his works of faith .., and that would show who was really obedient to God ultimately.

Grace is given to the believers in the faith process to produce fruits
Hence, grace is in the process of faith to produce charity and obedience in the life of a believer. It is not just to clear sin conscience. However, many will argue, "If the main purpose of grace is not to clear our sin conscience, why did Paul say that we should have no more sin conscience under the New Covenant?"
Heb 10:1-4 KJV  For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.  (2)  For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.  (3)  But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.  (4)  For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
I will tell them, Please read the above Bible verses again. The law above is the law of Moses; not the law of Christ. Hence, under the law of Christ, we have no more sin conscience to offer blood sacrifice. But it does not mean that we have no more sin conscience to repent under the New Covenant or under the law of Christ. Jesus has said it very clearly, Unless we repent, we cannot produce fruits through faith and obedience to His words. His words has clearly shown us that grace is given for repentance and bearing fruits:
Luk 13:5-10 KJV  I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.  (6)  He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.  (7)  Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?  (8)  And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it:  (9)  And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.  (10)  And he was teaching in one of the synagogues on the sabbath.
Hence, contrary to what most hyper grace preachers think or preach, Jesus would never tell us to preach grace as something to clear our sin conscience or cover our sin conscience. He wants us to preach grace to the sinners so that there is still sin conscience for them to repent.
Mat 11:20-22 KJV  Then began he to upbraid the cities wherein most of his mighty works were done, because they repented not:  (21)  Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.  (22)  But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment, than for you.
Mar 6:10-12 KJV  And he said unto them, In what place soever ye enter into an house, there abide till ye depart from that place.  (11)  And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.  (12)  And they went out, and preached that men should repent.

Grace is given to the believers not to cover their sin conscience
I will ask the hyper grace people, Do you think that Jesus was telling the people to just change their minds and believe in Him (without turning away from sin) ?
1. No, if Jesus would just want them to believe, He would not use the example of the sin cities (Sodom and Gomorrha) to show them what the people of those cities would do if they repented (Mat 11:21 -  ".. they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes").
2. That was the first reason why grace is not given to clear our sin conscience or cover our sin conscience. The second reason is found in the words spoken by Jesus again in the gospel of John:
Joh 16:8 KJV  And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
Joh 16:8 LITV  And having come, that One will convict the world concerning sin, and concerning righteousness, and concerning judgment.
What does it mean? It means that the world including the false churches and false believers will be reproved and convicted of sin. Many argue that they cannot be convicted of sin because they are the saints or true believers who has no more sin or sin conscience. But I will ask them, Are you so righteous or so 'destined to reign in this world' that you can never sin? Please be honest. We all can sin and do sin. Hence, we still need the reproof of the Holy Spirit when we are too blinded to see.
3. John confirmed the words of Jesus Christ again in:
1Jn 1:6-10 KJV  If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:  (7)  But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.  (8)  If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.  (9)  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.  (10)  If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
Please count how many times John said 'If we ..' above? 5 times. Can we explain it away by twisting the words and lying that all the above Bible verses are not applicable to us? No, no one can claim that he can never sin and therefore he does not need to confess any sin.
4. One more reason why Jesus would still want us to remember that we are the sinners and that we must still know sin conscience (for true repentance and humility before God):
Luk 11:1-4 KJV  And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one of his disciples said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples.  (2)  And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.  (3)  Give us day by day our daily bread.  (4)  And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.
Please think, If we pray and ask God to forgive us our sins everyday, will it remind us of our sins? Yes. Hence, it is scriptural for us, the sinners, to remember and know that we are still sinners who need God and the Holy Spirit to reprove us if we have sinned.

Can the Holy Spirit reprove us of sin or make us feel sin conscious?
Of course, yes, amen. Of course, when I say that, I do not need to stop whatever I do now and start to confess all my sins since my childbirth until now. The Bible or 1 John 1:9 has never taught us to confess our sins radically, blindly, foolishly, ritualistically, or meaninglessly. We do not confess like a stupid mad parrot which keeps repeating itself. We must confess with the heart to turn away from sin too. Those who say that the churches had taught them to confess like the mad parrot and therefore they can conclude that 1 John 1:9 is no longer applicable are ignorant. Obviously they do not know the teaching of the Bible and they would just exclude any Bible verses based on the foolishness of their minds or other's. Similarly, when they concluded that the Ten Commandments were obsolete just because they knew that the Pharisees who kept the Ten Commandments were hypocrites, they did not have high regard for God's words. Why? It is because I am not surprise to know that, when they find out that many preachers who study the Bible prophecies and warnings would criticise them, they will just say that all the Bible warnings are obsolete too.
I have heard of a false doctrine which has twisted the words of the Lord so much that many believers today thought that they could never sin or feel any sin conscience. In fact, the Pharisee liked to repent or confess without feeling any sin conscience too:
Mat 3:5-8 KJV  Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan,  (6)  And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins. (7)  But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?  (8)  Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
Similarly, many people today would just want to say sorry without really feeling sorry too. Like so many modern day's happy hypocritical believers or positive carnal believers who argue that they have 'repented', they will just confess, "Sorry! I know that I have lied, cheated, or stolen from you. But there is NOTHING I can do even if I have slept with other women (or men) and sinned against you. If God can forgive me, you must forgive me too. Just forgive and forget, don't live in bitterness, and the peace of God will be with you."
Many still argue that the Holy Spirit can only convict them of righteousness; not sin. They argue that the Holy Spirit will convict the non-believers of sin; not the believers in their churches, because the Holy Spirit would divide His reproof to convict the believers of righteousness and prosperity only. Hence, they twisted and quoted the Bible verses by adding their own words or interpretation (with the brackets) in the words of God as follows:
Joh 16:8-11 KJV  And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
(9) (reprove the sinners of the world)  Of sin, because they believe not on me;
(10) (reprove the believers in the churches) Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
(11) (reprove the devils in hell) Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
They added those words in brackets to stress that the Holy Spirit can only reprove different parties of different things. However, we can see clearly from the original Bible text that Jesus referred to the reproof of the WHOLE world collectively (where there are the sinners, believers, churches, and devils); not separately or individually.  Hence, the Holy Spirit can certainly reprove everyone IN THE WORLD regardless of whether they are the angels, kings, princes, saints, believers, sinners, or devils. The Holy Spirit can reprove them (everyone):
1. Of sin because they do not believe and obey the Son of God
2. Of righteousness because they see the Son of God being taken away from the world to the Father and they will know that Jesus is the ultimate righteousness of God
3. Of judgement because they will see the judgement of God on Satan and therefore they will know that God will judge the world too.
Hence, I think most hyper grace preachers today need to rewrite their books or re-invent their doctrines which deny the conviction of the Holy Spirit; otherwise they will always have problem debating and explaining how confession of sin or conviction of sin has become a 'wrong teaching' in most of the traditional churches today.

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