Saturday 13 April 2013

Have all our sins been forgiven, including all our past, present, and even future sins?

This is a critical and important question which we must answer correctly. We can afford to make many mistakes; but not this one, especially if we are God's preachers. It's because it could be a costly mistake which may lead people, as well as, believers to hell. Do you agree? I believe that the radical grace preachers would agree wholeheartedly, quoting from one of their favourite sayings:
"If you believe right, you will live right. If you live right, you will do right !"

Can God's grace be so good or so radical that it will forgive all our future sins without any of our future repentance, even if we sin ?
Generally most of us could understand that our sins are forgiven if we repent (or if we sincerely confess our sins before God or truly turn from our sins in our continuous repentance attitude before God). We can easily prove this not only biblically, but sensibly too. I will not need to quote any Bible verses to the radical grace preachers unless they would disagree with this too. However, I will tell them, The Bible has never told us that God's grace is too good to be true (or so radical) that it can forgive us all our past, present, and even our future sins without us doing anything. Please think, If this is true, we will have no more sins in the future. If we have no more sins in the future, we will not need to repent any more. If we will not need to repent any more, we will do nothing even if we will still sin in the future. We will just continue to feel good even if we sin. We will just think righteous? We will have no more sin conscience to repent? Did I hear it correctly from the radical grace preachers? Can we tell the sinners or the believers that they can just be grace conscience or God's goodness conscience whenever they sin? This is ridiculous. I will tell them, Why don't you tell them to be prosperity conscience, lawless conscience, or righteousness conscience whenever they sin ? Yes, you may argue with many Bible verses that it is good to have prosperity conscience, lawless conscience, effortless conscience, and righteousness conscience instead, but it is clear to us that you do it so that the people can forget or ignore their sin conscience to repent whenever they sin.

Did Paul tell us that we should have no more sin conscience to repent in the future ?
I will tell them, No, that can never be the teaching of Jesus or Paul. Yes, Paul did mention that, as a Jew:
  • he would not have the sin conscience to offer any more blood sacrifice; 
  • but he would never say that we would never have any sin conscience to repent.
  • Heb 10:1-6 KJV  For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.  (2)  For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.  (3)  But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.  (4)  For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.  (5)  Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:  (6)  In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
  • Gal 2:15-16 KJV  We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles,  (16)  Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. 

Sin conscience to repent will never condemn
Sin conscience to repent will condemn only when we are deceived to think that it will condemn.
They will argue, "But sin conscience will condemn. It should not be encouraged or preached. Look at the adulterous woman in Jn 8:8. The Pharisees tried to condemn her and make her sin conscience or law conscience; but Jesus made us grace conscience. Hence, if we preach repentance conscience or sin conscience to repent, it is not the gospel. It would become a condemnation gospel."
  • Joh 8:3-4 KJV  And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, .. (10)  When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?  (11)  She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
I will tell them, Yes, sin conscience will condemn without repentance. But sin conscience to repent will certainly not condemn. Let's not argue whether Jesus had preached repentance first or grace first to save the woman. Just ask yourselves, was there sin conscience from the adulterous woman? Yes, otherwise, Jesus would not help her. Was there grace conscience from her too? I will not deny it too because Jesus forgave her. Now, we should also look at the Pharisees. Was there sin conscience from the Pharisees? No, I believe there was none. Was there grace conscience from the Pharisees? Hmm.. you may argue that they have no grace conscience but do you know that they could have favour conscience too ? Most of them thought that they were highly favoured by God because of what they did (Luk 18:10-14). They thought that the works of the law (Rom 9:31-33, Mat 3:8-9) should exempt them from any sin conscience to repent. Hence, I think that it is perfectly alright to have both sin conscience to repent and then grace conscience, and vice versa, in the preaching of the gospel. If you would dispute, please read the following Bible verses:
  • Luk 24:47 KJV  And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
  • Act 5:29-32 KJV  Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.  ... (31)  Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.  (32)  And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
  • Act 26:18-20 KJV  To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.  .. (20) .. that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.
Please be honest after reading the above. Did the Lord, Paul, Peter, and the Apostles in the Bible verses above preach the gospel? Did they preach the gospel of grace? Yes. Although they might not mention the word 'grace', they knew clearly that forgiveness of sins is God's grace. Was there sin conscience to repent ? Of course, I believe that there were both sin conscience to repent and grace conscience even though it was not mentioned clearly. However, it would be totally off if we interpret that we must preach repentance only because we can see repentance conscience only, or that we must preach grace only because we cannot see any sin conscience to repent. No, we must not be radically lob-sided in our perspectives. Otherwise, we would behave and see things like the 'half-brain freak' in my story here.

Did Paul tell us that our future generation should have no more sin conscience to repent too? No.
I will tell them, Yes, based on the Bible verses above, we can say that God's grace or the blood of Jesus is powerful enough to cleanse the sins of all our past, present, and future generation too; but it cannot work if our future generation do not know about repentance in the Lord. It cannot work too if they think that they would just repent 'once and for all' and think that they can just forget about repentance for the rest of their lives whenever they will sin again in the future. I will tell them, Yes, Jesus can die once and for all (because He is God), but we cannot afford to repent once and for all (because we are sinners). Hence, Paul had to address it with a severe warning against the believers who are perverted in their thinking. Contrary to the radical grace preacher's assurance that this can never happen to them or their believers, Paul specifically mentioned that his warning would include any believers who have the knowledge of the truth, God's covenant, and the grace of God:
  • Heb 10:26-30 KJV  For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,  (27)  But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.  (28)  He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:  (29)  Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?  (30)  For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. (Can we twist and argue that this warning is not for God's people? No, it says very clearly that God will judge His people; not other people. When He used the comparison of a sorer punishment, He confirmed again that He was comparing and warning two of His people - one who despised Moses' law, and another who dishonoured the Spirit of grace. Please think, who were able to despised Moses' law, except the Jews or His people who were given the law? Similarly, who could dishonour the Spirit of grace, except the believers or His people who were given the grace of God too?) 
  • Heb 6:4-12 KJV  For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,  (5)  And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,  (6)  If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.  ..  (8)  But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.  (9)  But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak.  (10)  For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister.  (11)  And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end:  (12)  That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises. (That's why we ought to be diligence. It's because believers can fall and perish if they are not diligent about things that accompany salvation in (v9).
  • 2Pe 2:19-21 KJV  While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.  (20)  For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.  (21)  For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. (I don't think radical grace preachers can argue that this Bible passage is for the non-believers. No, they are the believers who have escaped the pollution of the world through Jesus Christ but later found themselves entangled in the world again, while promising others they can still have abundance of liberty, prosperity, and grace of God. They know the way of righteousness but obviously they have rejected God's law and commandment too.) 

Is it acceptable to preach the gospel of Jesus with our own conscience, which could be our self-righteous conscience, sinless conscience, or false repentance conscience ?
No. If sinners or believers who sinned would never have any sin conscience to repent, they would never be saved. Hence, If anyone perverts the words of the Lord or the gospel of repentance, they could be under the curse of the Lord too, even if they may confess, argue, or sincerely think that they are still in the Lord.
  • Mat 7:15-23 KJV  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.  (16)  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?  (17)  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.  (18)  A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.  (19)  Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.  (20)  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.  (21)  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.  (22)  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?  (23)  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
  • Mat 18:4-8 ASV  Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.  (5)  And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me:  (6)  But whoso shall cause one of these little ones that believe on me to stumble, it is profitable for him that a great millstone should be hanged about his neck, and that he should be sunk in the depth of the sea.  (7)  Woe unto the world because of occasions of stumbling! for it must needs be that the occasions come; but woe to that man through whom the occasion cometh!  (8)  And if thy hand or thy foot causeth thee to stumble, cut it off, and cast it from thee: it is good for thee to enter into life maimed or halt, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into the eternal fire.
  • Rev 18:20-21 ASV  Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye saints, and ye apostles, and ye prophets; for God hath judged your judgment on her.  (21)  And a strong angel took up a stone as it were a great millstone and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with a mighty fall shall Babylon, the great city, be cast down, and shall be found no more at all.
Will they become poor now because they have perverted the gospel of the Lord? No, on the contrary, many of them may prosper and become boastful, but they would be 'poor' when they will stand before the Lord:
  • Rev 3:17-19 KJV  Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:  (18)  I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.  (19)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

Did Jesus tell us to change His gospel and teach grace conscience instead of repentance conscience ?
Many would boast, "We are grace conscience, not repentance conscience; however, we have prospered more. Why? It's because Jesus wants us to be grace conscience, not sin conscience or repentance conscience ... Few years ago, the Lord told me in a small voice that His gospel is the gospel that Paul preached. His gospel is the gospel of grace, not the mixture of law and grace. The Lord told me in the Spirit that it is time to change now. It is time to preach the grace revolution. He told me that it is His will for us to preach the gospel of grace, not the gospel of repentance or any teaching about God's laws in our hearts and mind .."
I will ask them, Are you sure Jesus said that ? I have problem believing that because it contradicts totally against the command of the Lord in the Gospel:
  • Luk 24:44-48 ASV  And he said unto them, These are my words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must needs be fulfilled, which are written in the law of Moses, and the prophets, and the psalms, concerning me.  (45)  Then opened he their mind, that they might understand the scriptures;  (46)  and he said unto them, Thus it is written, that the Christ should suffer, and rise again from the dead the third day;  (47)  and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name unto all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem.  (48)  Ye are witnesses of these things.
I will ask them, If Jesus would tell us to preach grace instead of repentance, when will He change again and tell us to preach some other things? Will He raise up another radical grace preacher to tell us to preach something else again? Of course, no. This is ridiculous.
You said that the gospel that what Paul preached is the gospel; but how about the gospel that other disciples preached? Wasn't what they preached considered as the gospel too?
  • Mar 6:7-12 KJV  And he called unto him the twelve, and began to send them forth by two and two; and gave them power over unclean spirits;  (8)  And commanded them that they should ..  (11)  And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.  (12)  And they went out, and preached that men should repent. (13) And they cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed them. 
  • Luk 4:17-21 KJV  And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,  (18)  The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,  (19)  To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.  (20)  And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.  (21)  And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.
They will argue, "But the twelve disciples did not preach grace. Only Paul preached grace and only the gospel of grace is the true gospel of Jesus Christ. Hence, we should preach the gospel that Paul preached. However, if we did not preach grace radically until other people misunderstood us and accuse us for preach license to sin, we have not preached the gospel that Paul preached because Paul had preached grace until the Pharisees accused him."
I will tell them, So, are you saying that Peter, John, and James had not preached the true gospel because they preached repentance ? What makes you think that they had not preached the gospel? Before falsely accuse all the disciples who preached repentance, please read your Bible again:
  • Act 5:31-33 KJV  Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.  (32)  And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.  (33)  When they heard that, they were cut to the heart, and took counsel to slay them.
I will tell them, Do you know that Peter had preached the gospel because he preached repentance and forgiveness of sins ? Although Peter did not preach grace, he preached forgiveness of sins. And don't you know that forgiveness of sins received through repentance is considered as the grace of God under the New Testament according to Lord's command and teaching from all the Bible verses I have shown above ? Please read them again -  Luk 24:44-48, Mar 6:7-12, Luk 4:17-21, Luk 5:32, Luk 19:8-9 ..



  
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