Monday 26 November 2012

Is it possible for someone to be overpaid in a religious or social organisation ?

The answer is yes, It is possible to overpay a certain individual in a religious or social organisation if .. there is no proper internal control or governance and the remuneration committees are collaborative parties. I may not be qualified to comment about the person's salary or income if he is a king, a dictator, or a tyrant of his own country. However, I would question about the necessity of paying a monk, a pastor, a religious leader, or the CEO of a religious or social organisation the same amount of salary from the funds collected for religious or welfare purposes. Probably we need to go back to the basic goal and objective of such fund in the organisation again, and question ourselves, Why should we use up most of the fund to pay a few high ranking individuals in the organisation? Will it defeat the purpose of setting up such an organisation or fund if the basic goal of the organisation is not met. We should be objective about it and not thinking of whether the certain individual concerned here is our favourite church pastor or temple monk, or whether he shares the same religious faith with ours.

Most religious people today are very 'biased' towards their own faith
We have heard of cases where a CEO, a monk, or a temple medium who was paid 100 times more than what an average income earner could get. When the news broke out about their exorbitant salaries or misappropriation of the organisation's fund or temple's fund, people would start to condemn them as 'greedy monks' or 'greedy Pharisees' who enriched themselves at the expense of the poor or the needy who needed the social funds. However, the irony is when we know that the pastors are getting 100 times or 1000 times more than what we could get, we dare not accuse them. Why? We are probably afraid that they would turn back and accuse us for being jealous. However, I would still think that it doesn't make sense: When some pastors knew that the Pharisees had earned too much, they would accuse the Pharisees for being hypocrites who enriched themselves at the expense of the poor; however, when they themselves are earning fat salaries too, they would just justify themselves by saying that they are reigning and prospering in the will of God? I would think that only religious or the 'blind' believers will 'collaborate' and give them whatever they want in line with 'their prosperity doctrine' or 'internal governance'.

Can pastors earn more than the Pharisees, and not becoming like the Pharisees?
Hence, I find that the pastors' accusation against the Pharisees is even more hypocritical than the Pharisees themselves. Is there any logic for them to accuse the Pharisees for being too rich or too law-conscious, while they themselves are 100 times or 1000 times richer than the Pharisees who prospered through religious activities and businesses in their temples too?
Some of them will say, "Why not? It's God's favour. Law-conscious people would not get God's favour. That's why the Pharisees were rich but they were hypocrites. But we are grace conscious and we will get God's favour. That's why we are rich and we can never be hypocrites because we believe in grace. Our religious businesses are different from theirs. We don't believe in self-effort, so we just collect the funds and proceeds from the people who are from God because we are from God. And so, we can live like the king, like king David, and like king Solomon. What's wrong if we can live like the kings with no sweat and no self-effort. Are you jealous?"
I will tell them, I am not jealous. I am just curious. While you may think that you are kings, but please think, What have you contributed to the society. If you are like king David, then you should reign like a king to deserve the king's salary. At least King David fought for the people and built schools, bridges, roads, hospitals, orphanage, and probably many social welfare organisations to take care of the poor. Did you do all these when you claimed that you could live like Him too? No, if you have done nothing, you have only boasted like the Pharisees.

Did the Bible say that we shall reign like the 'kings' today?
They will argue, "What's the problem? The Bible says We are destined to reign. If we reign we ought to prosper too. If we prosper, we should prosper now. It makes no sense to prosper after we died. If we have to wait, we would miss all the enjoyment in this world. I would have missed my Ferrari cars, my luxurious houses, and my beautiful wives.. Please think of how to prosper now, not when you are in heaven with Christ. It makes no sense to prosper in heaven when you have everything there. If you want to prosper, you should prosper now like me.. Haha.. jealous? That's your problem. We, the radical grace preachers, will never need to be jealous of others. We will only make others jealous of us.." I will tell them, The problems are:
  1. you have twisted the Bible
  2. you have boasted like a Pharisee
  3. you have misunderstood reigning with Christ
  1. You have twisted the Bible - You have quoted 'destined to reign' out of its Bible context: Rom 5:17-21 KJV  For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) .. (19)  For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.  (20)  Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:  (21)  That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord. This Bible passage is not talking about reigning in life because we can prosper and boast about God's favour (or boast like the Pharisee in Luke 18:10). We can reign in life because we have overcome sins. If we have overcome sins, it doesn't mean that we should always prosper and live like the kings or the Pharisees. That is not the interpretation of the Bible. They will argue, "But that's promise of the Bible. Jesus said, "Seek ye first the kingdom of God and all these things should be added unto you Matt 6:33-34." Can you remember, Just before Jesus said so, He had reminded us of the riches of king Solomon too? Therefore, it means that if we seek ye first the kingdom of God, all the riches of king Solomon would be added unto us too. That's why it is the promise of God: we should reign like the kings, we should live like the kings. This is the Bible interprets the Bible.." I will tell them, I thought you had told your believers that all the teachings of the Lord from the sermon of the mount in Matt5-7 were for the Jews under the law and they have become obsolete now? Why are you quoting from these Bible verses now? However, contrary to what you said, Jesus would not want the people to think of the riches of king Solomon; He wants us to think of nothing in this world. Of course, He would not want us to think of reigning or prospering in this life like the Gentiles or the Pharisees too: Mat 6:31-34 KJV  Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?  (32)  (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.  (33)  But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.  (34)  Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof. I will tell the radical grace preachers, You are preaching contrary to the Lord's words. When you preach that grace will reign, you are preaching that you will reign like the kings in this world. But when Jesus preach that His disciples will reign, He told them that they will reign with Him in the 'next' generation: Mat 19:27-28 KJV  Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore?  (28)  And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. Hence, it is not about prosperity and reigning in life here; it is about reigning with Christ in the future. I don't care how you reign in life; just don't reign like the 'snakes' and 'frogs'  in our 'gardens' and make all kinds of hissing noises which synchronise with each others to justify your kingly salaries, lifestyles, and lies. 
  2. You have boasted like a Pharisee. They will argue, "No, we can never be a Pharisee. Why? It's because we did not preach the law. Hence, no one can accuse us for boasting. When we boast, we boast in the Lord. When we prosper, we prosper in the Lord. When we enjoy, we enjoy in the Lord. Even when we sin, we sin in the Lord. What's wrong? All of us do sin ! However, if we sin and we are in the Lord, we can never be condemned. I don't care how you sin, if you sin and you believe in the Lord, you are under grace even if you don't repent from your sins. Repentance is just to metanoia or change your minds..." I will tell them, We don't have to preach the law to be like the Pharisees. We can behave like the Pharisees or the hypocrites by preaching anything if we are hypocrites within. It is so foolish to have missed the real teaching of the Lord when He said: Mat 12:33-34 KJV  Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.  (34)  O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. Hence, we will not judge if a person or a preacher is preaching the right thing or saying the right thing based on what he said or declared eg. confession of grace, righteousness, or goodness, but based on what is in his heart. If they are boastful, they are boastful. It will not change the fact that they are boastful if they boast in the law or in the Lord. They are equally disgusting to me. 
  3. You have misunderstood reigning with Christ. Reigning with Christ is not prospering with Christ. Hence, when Jesus told Peter that he will reign with Him in the future in Mat 19:27-28, He did not refer to prospering or becoming materially richer in Him. Of course, it makes no sense to prosper with Him in heaven when we will have everything in Christ. However, reigning with Christ will make sense if it is judging with Christ when He comes again. Hence, can we conclude that all of us will judge with Christ or reign with Christ based on Mat 19:27-28? I don't think so. Please read the promise of Christ to Peter again. It was spoken to him and the twelve only:  
Mat 19:27-29 KJV  Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore?  (28)  And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. (Then Jesus continued and said to the believers that they will inherit everlasting life) (29)  And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.  
If we interpret the words of the Lord correctly, we would not say that every believers will reign like Peter or the twelve Apostles, but everyone who follows the Lord will inherit everlasting life based on the words and the Lord's teaching above. They would argue, "How can the Lord tell us to forsake our parents, wives, and children? No, of course, family first. If we have to forsake our family members, this can never be from the Lord. Hence, we believe that all the teaching of Lord in the 4 Gospels before He was resurrected was not for us. It was for the Jews. It has become obsolete. Halellujah, we are now under grace today. Hence, we don't have to follow any of the Lord teaching now; instead, we will just need to follow the teaching of Paul or the teaching of grace..we are under the New covenant today." I will tell them, I will not argue with you here whom we must listen to, but I can confirm that the teaching of the Lord can never be obsolete. Please read the teaching of the Lord to us again. He did not say that everyone must abandon their loved ones; but he did say that everyone would abandon their loved ones if they need to do it 'for His name's sake', if it is ..    I've been asking myself, Will there be a scenario when we have to abandon our loved ones for His name sake? One very obvious answer to me is:  we must deny our loved ones or refuse to give in to them when they are radically under the influence of false doctrine or lawless philosophies and they demanded us radically that we should listen to them and follow them. In this case, we have no choice but to 'forsake' them or leave them alone if we cannot win them over. Jesus would not want us to compromise with false doctrine because of our loved ones. Jesus has prophesied that the false prophets would use our loved ones to entangle us and prevent us from being effective witnesses and disciples for His kingdom.
The Bible has warned us not to live like 'thieves', Judas Iscariot, or the prodigal son
Some preachers will argue, "What's wrong if we live like kings ? In fact, Jesus was very rich. Imagine what would happen if all the sinners from Israel would come to Jesus ? Jesus could be very rich ! He could be richer than any mega church pastors today. Many rich sinners, like Zacchaeus, would not hesitate to give all their money to Jesus to help the poor. Even poor people, like the woman with the alabaster jar of perfume, would have given all to Jesus too. Hence, how can we think that Jesus was poor? He could be a multi-millionaire too. He wore 'branded' clothes which was so expensive or valuable that the Roman soldiers would cast lots for it. So, it showed that Jesus lived luxurious lifestyle. He also rode on a new donkey which was equivalent to a new Rolls Roys today. Hence, if He could live luxurious lifestyle and enjoy life, so can we. If we serve the Lord, all the more He will bless us. He will make sure that we can really enjoy like Him, prosper like Him, and reign like Him.. we have no apology for saying this radically and preaching the prosperity gospel to make everyone rich.. "
I will tell them, Yes, I do not deny that Jesus could be very rich. To many, it is still a question mark whether He had enough funds to do charitable works to take care of all the poor in the country. But it was very clear to me that He had not lived in luxurious lifestyle. No, He lived simple lifestyle. I am not very sure if He wore 'branded' clothing, but no one was jealous of what He wore or how He lived. In fact, the Pharisees thought people would be jealous of them as they showed off their clothing and abundance through the 'favour' of God.
Now, if Jesus was very rich and He would never use the money collected to pamper Himself or anyone of His disciples, many preachers or pastors today would be guilty if they are thinking or 'eyeing' on the riches of God or the treasury of the Lord just to live like the 'kings' themselves. If Judas Iscariot were still alive today, he could be one of those pastors who think that he should live like the 'kings' too with major entitlement to the funds and interpret that Jesus would never ask him to take care of the poor, but to enjoy himself.
  • Joh 12:4-8 KJV  Then saith one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, which should betray him,  (5)  Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor?  (6)  This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein.  (7)  Then said Jesus, Let her alone: against the day of my burying hath she kept this.  (8)  For the poor always ye have with you; but me ye have not always.
Many of those who think that they should be rich and reign like kings in our churches could be the pastors and they would demand the Lord to bless them and give them whatever portions they desired. This would again remind me of the parable Jesus had told us in the parable of the prodigal son:
  • Luk 15:11-14 KJV  And he said, A certain man had two sons:  (12)  And the younger of them said to his father, Father, give me the portion of goods that falleth to me. And he divided unto them his living.  (13)  And not many days after the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance with riotous living.  (14)  And when he had spent all, there arose a mighty famine in that land; and he began to be in want.
Jesus might be rich but He did not live luxuriously 
By the way, did Jesus ride on a new donkey ? Yes, it was a young ass. Yes, it could be a Rolls Roys in our days, but it does not mean that He lived a luxurious life:  
  • Joh 12:14 KJV  And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written, 
But this was His last journey to Jerusalem before He would die on the cross ! Please think,
  • If He was not born in the room of luxurious 'hotel' but in a 'garage' where He was laid in a manger, 
  • If He rode on his last journey of life upon a borrowed donkey from someone unknown, and,
  • If He died in a tomb that was not his own, 
do you still think that He lived a life of luxury? Only totally blinded people would say that Jesus was so rich that he lived a luxurious life. Yes, he may be a God who is rich and has unlimited supplies and resources but he chose to live simple life. We may even consider Him to be a eco-friendly God who would collect the fragments of breads and would not waste resources like the prodigal son. 

We would never be jealous of salaries which are 'peanuts'
Some pastors will still argue, "Why are you so condemning, so cynical, and suspicious of our salaries? Is it because you are jealous of our high income? We are God's servants. Hence, we are answerable only to God. And, if we are the anointed ones, we would deserve even more from the funds collected because of us or because of our preaching. We are the pillars of God's revenues for the kingdom of God. We are destined to reign. God would not want us to be poor. Why can't we insist that we should be paid adequately and freely with the favours of God. Do you know that the Bible commanded us not to muzzle the ox which works for you? And we are that ox which chew the 'words' for you faithfully every Sunday.. Do you want us to be paid with 'peanuts' ?"
I will tell them, What a shame? Do you think that the public would criticise your pay if your pay is only 'peanuts' ? No, of course, we are not talking about peanuts here. We are talking about salary that is more than the salary of a king or a president in some countries. With that kind of salaries, some pastor could literally live like a king. When the news came out about the salaries of some celebrity pastors or monks, no people would want to be a busybody gossiping about their salaries if it is just 'peanuts'.

  • 1Ti 5:17-18 KJV  Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.  (18)  For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward.  
If we really have the mind of Christ, we would never make the public jealous of our salaries 
Yes, the Bible did tell us to pay God's servant adequately, but not incredibly by depleting the funds radically. Probably, only radical grace believers would think that it is ok to pay their pastors radically because of their brain-washed radical belief in grace, prosperity, favour, generosity, and abundance in God, wrongly preached to give them the deceitful idea that their pastors should 'reign' like the kings in the Old Testament (like king David or king Solomon). However, please think if Jesus was the real king and He did not get all the salaries He deserved, can you claim credit? I would question you if you boast that you have the mind of Christ to prosper too. I would doubt if you have the mind of Christ to live like Christ if you claim that 'as He is, so are you'? 
  • 1Pe 4:1-8 KJV  Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;  (2)  That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.  (3)  For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries:  (4)  Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you:  (5)  Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead.  (6)  For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.  (7)  But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.  (8)  And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins. (This Bible passage is more relevant ever to anyone in Christ, not just for the believers but also for all the pastors during the end time too.)
  • 1Pe 1:13-14 KJV  Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;  (14)  As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:
  • Php 2:4-7 KJV  Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.  (5)  Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:  (6)  Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:  (7)  But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
  • 1Co 2:15-16 KJV  But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.  (16)  For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
Lawless preaching without proper execution of internal governance and law in our churches would put doubts on our sincerity to the preaching of God's words
I will ask some 'very rich' pastors who claim that they are 'very humble' under the grace of God, Did you say that you would always tell your wife not trust you, when you were on any oversea trip, because you admitted to her that you could fall into the temptation and commit adultery? You said that no one could keep the law including yourselves. So, you had advised your wife to check on you, to woo you back (if possible, she should go for expensive plastic surgery), and to put on sexy clothing. Yes, I was initially impressed by your honesty and frank confession about your vulnerability from the pulpit. However, later I realised that you were just saying it with the intention to preach lawless doctrine which justifies the sinners, the lawless, and the believers, for not keeping any God's laws or commandments. In fact, I am beginning to doubt on your sincerity now when you said that you were vulnerable to sins and you needed your wife to check on you too. Why? It is because, if you are really humble and think that you would need your wives to check on your infidelity, you would have made sure that your internal control for your church governance would check on your misappropriation of funds or your exorbitant salaries too. However, why do you neglect the internal control and governance? Hence, I would conclude that your inconsistent preaching about your vulnerability to sins and your prosperity doctrine (which influence the thought of your believers to determine on your salaries and to justify your lifestyle as the 'kings') would just show us that you are still very hypocritical in your radical favour and prosperity preaching too. Why must you wait until the news agency or the news media starting to report on your exorbitant salaries, before making the last minute's 'adjustment' on your internal check or governance on your salaries? I hope that the internal check or governance has already been in place for the past 20 years; otherwise, you could have been drawing exorbitant salaries for the past 20 years and no people dare to question it. You would be answerable to the Lord.

Right preaching with the right value system will lead the believers and churches to the right believing and right living
I will tell the pastors, I will not dispute with you whether you will need to preach to your believers radically that it is necessary for their wives to check on them, for any infidelity, because you think that none of them can keep the law based on the following Bible verses:
  • Mat 5:27-28 KJV  Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:  (28)  But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
However, I will insist that every church or organisation must have good internal control, law, and governance to protect their funds and the interest of each members. Every church organisation will do right only if there is the right internal control or right internal governance. However,
  1. a lawless organisation will never have the right internal control and do right. 
  2. a lawless person will never have the right internal value system and do right too. 
Hence, right governance or right value system will lead to right believing, and right believing will lead to right doing. But, if we preach otherwise or believe otherwise, we will have many churches full of corruptions or many rich pastors with exorbitant salaries.

Right preaching of God's laws in the believers and churches will bring life
I will tell them, Yes, you are right to say that no one can keep the law because all of us have sinned. But does it mean that we do not need to have the law of God in our lives or in our churches? No, that's a lie. When Jesus brought out the law 'Thou shalt not commit adultery' in Mat 5:27-28, He did not say, 'Since you cannot keep the law, therefore you don't have to keep the law'. No, on the contrary, He showed us that we must all the more keep the law of God. We must repent for the remission of sins.
  • Mat 19:17 KJV  And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
  • Act 17:30 KJV  And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
  • Act 2:38-39 KJV  Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.  (39)  For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Wrong preaching of God's laws will bring lawlessness and destruction
In the last days, we will know the false prophets by their fruits. If they've preached that the believers should not keep the law of God, they would not follow the internal governance of the churches. Instead, they will argue, twist, and justify with their words to enrich themselves through the church funds and live like the kings ('reign' like the kings also). Many of them have started to quote the words of Jesus from Mat 5:27-28 radically and out of its context. Why? So, that they will not feel guilty when they cannot keep any law, commit adulteries, or misappropriate the church funds to enrich themselves. They could be worst than the Pharisees whom Jesus called 'vipers'. They have become the hypocrite of hypocrites (or viper of the vipers). They do not only want to enrich themselves with 'God's favours', they would also justify all the lawless deeds of the rich and corrupted pastors who sin with their lawless arguments. No wonder, Jesus would reject them even if they have done great works in His name:
  • Mat 7:15-23 KJV  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.  (16)  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?  (17)  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.  (18)  A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.  (19)  Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.  (20)  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.  (21)  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.  (22)  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?  (23)  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
  • Luk 6:46-48 KJV  And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?  (47)  Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:  (48)  He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood (false doctrine) arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. (Hence, Jesus said clearly that He would not just want us to have right believing, right faith, right miracles, right preaching, or right confession only; he wants us to have right doing with His words too, because right doing would prove that we are His true disciples on the rock of salvation.)
The word of Jesus in the sermon from the Mount can never be obsolete
Have the words of the Lord come true, or have the words of the Lord become obsolete? You can answer it yourselves. Just look around, do you find many pastors who have committed adulteries, misappropriated church funds, and lived like the 'kings'? If you do, the words of the Lord have not become obsolete but they have come true ! Many pastors or preachers have sinned but the most ironical thing is: They would insist that they are more righteous than others because they are under grace, they have the New covenant, they have the blood of Jesus, they are the righteousness of God in Christ, they are the disciple whom Jesus loved .. Has the grace of God been abused? You bet. Where did they learn all these radical grace doctrines, arguments, and justification for their deceitful sins ? I am afraid, It is not from the Lord - it is from the spirit of the frogs:
  • Rev 16:13-16 KJV  And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.  (14)  For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.  (15)  Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.  (16)  And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon. (The war of the end time is not the war between armies and armies or tanks against tanks; it is the 'war' between God's people and the false prophets and the frogs. We may not be able to explain all the events and creatures in the book of Revelation; however, they could be figurative description of how the false doctrines and lawless principles will come and reign in the churches and in the lives of some believers. And hence, there could be a 'fight' in the spiritual realm or in heaven between the Word of God and lawlessness.)
The words of Jesus are only harsh to the false prophets who will never repent in obedience to His words
Many of them will argue, "Why are you so condemning? Why are you so harsh with these wicked words on those who sinned, committed adulteries, or stolen funds from the churches? Have you forgotten that we are commanded by the Lord to preach grace and forgiveness to those who sinned? Why don't you give them the second chance? We should love the sinners and not their sins .. How many of you know that your pastor is still growing, even God's prophets?"
I will tell them,
  1. Yes, we love sinners but we don't love false prophets. Some people who think that they are full of 'grace' would accuse me and say,"What? Can you call yourself a believer of Christ and don't love? We are ask to love everyone including the enemies and false prophets.." I will tell them, Ok, you may love everyone; including the false prophets, the beast, and the dragon too? Of course, I have to be honest and let you know that I can try to 'love' the false prophets, but I know that the Lord did not say that we cannot speak harsh words to the snakes, frogs, and vipers..
  2. Yes, those words are very harsh words or condemning words to the false prophets, but those words are not from me. They are from Mat 7:15-23. You should ask the Lord, "Why must you speak harsh words to the false prophets or us?" I am sure the Lord will give you a 'satisfactory' answer.
  3. Please don't ask me to give you grace or second chance. I am not the one who can give grace or second chance. You should ask God.
  4. I believe that God is gracious. He would give second chance, third chance, or many chances to everyone. However, He would not keep giving chances to the false preachers who will never repent. They may just want to change their minds, 'metanoia', and twist their evasive doctrine every now and then to argue with others or to exalt themselves as God's 'anointed' ones or as the 'Christs'. Jesus would be very gracious to sinners who come to Him in simple and clear repentance but He would be very harsh to the false prophets who always want to justify and devise their own 'repentance'. The following Bible verses are His words and promises to the sinners who would just repent in obedience to His words:
  • Joh 6:37 KJV  All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
  • Luk 5:32 KJV  I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.    
However, He would no longer be gracious to them if they have turned to become false prophets who have evil fruit. The problem is: many of them are still thinking that they are the normal sinners who would repent. However, they are no longer the ordinary sinners when they would prophesy in the name of the Lord, cast out devils, and do many wonderful works in His name. Jesus would never give second chance to the false prophets who have evil fruit. He would be very harsh to them, not because they preached too much law, they are legalistic, they behave like the hypocrites, they believe in other religions, they are sinners, they are gangsters, they stole money, they committed adulteries, or they cheated others; but because they twisted their own 'repentance' and taught others to follow them. Jesus would be very harsh to the false prophets who think that they deserve a second chance when all the 'chances' have been given to them to repent:
  • Mat 7:15-23 KJV  Beware of false prophets, ..(17)  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.  .. (20)  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.  (21)  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.  (22)  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?  (23)  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
  • Luk 6:46-48 KJV  And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?  (47)  Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:  (48)  He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood (false doctrine) arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.. (Hence, Jesus said clearly that He would not just want us to have right believing, right faith, right miracles, right preaching, or right confession only; he wants us to have right doing with His words too, because right doing would prove that we are His true disciples on the rock of salvation.)
Yes, I agreed that the words of the Lord are very harsh now, but it is only to the false prophets, not to the sinners or the believers. I find it comforting to know the commandments and judgement of the Lord whenever I read the words of the Lord above, because I know that the Lord will keep the kingdom of God free from the evil people or prophets who are hypocrites or who have evil fruit. However, if you find it condemning, you will have to question yourselves, have you repented? Or have you turned from your repentance and go back to lawlessness because of the false prophets? 
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