How many times would you make others misunderstand you ?

Will all God's preachers be misunderstood as radical grace preachers?
Many people have asked the above question. They said, "Many God's preachers preach the grace of God too. Don't you think that all God's preachers are radical grace preachers ?" I will tell them, No, not everyone is a radical grace preachers just because he preaches grace. It is not difficult to know who are the radical grace preachers even if they try to hide their 'radical' intention by preaching the laws of God or repentance occasionally.
Only the radical grace preachers would always like to say that others have misunderstood them or falsely accused them. Ironically they are the one who would want to be misunderstood and would deliberately do anything to confuse others. They argue that if we do not preach grace radically until we are misunderstood like them, we have not preached the gospel that Paul preached.

• Rom 5:20 KJV  Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:  ... Rom 6:1-2 KJV  What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?  (2)  God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? 

Based on the Bible verses above, they argue that if Paul had preached the gospel until everyone, including the Pharisees, sinners, and believers, have all misunderstood him, we should also preach like him too. No, this is ridiculous. I will tell them,

1. Firstly, Paul did not tell us to preach the gospel until everyone is confused - Paul said, "God forbid" in Rom 6:2. It means that he would not allow anyone to preach the gospel like a license to sin or like some kind of confusion or oxymoron. 
2. Paul believed in teaching sound doctrine (1Ti 1:10, 2Ti 4:2-3)  - Please think, If the false preachers were to preach fake grace, license to sin, or mind changing oxymoron, so much so that the preaching of repentance become misunderstood as the preaching of condemnation or obsolete doctrine of Christ, will you still preach like them too ? No. Paul would never want us to preach like them.
3. Paul knew that false prophets would come and pervert God's doctrine (Act 20:29-31, Jud 1:4) - Obviously you have preached Rom 5:20 - Rom 6:1-2 out of its context to the advantage of the false preachers who will turn against the churches and accuse them for misunderstanding grace, condemning grace, or preaching against grace. Many false preachers would claim that they are the believers of 'radical grace'; but unknown to many, they are actually false prophets who would preach any kind of doctrine in the name of 'grace'.   
4. Paul would never want us to preach the things of God until it is misunderstood -  2Ti 1:6-7 KJV  Wherefore I put thee in remembrance that thou stir up the gift of God, which is in thee by the putting on of my hands.  (7)  For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. I will tell them, You said that "we should preach grace or the goodness of God until people misunderstood us for preaching license to sin, because where sin abounds, grace would abound even more. It may show people that grace would abound and become more radical but it would be more effective too." If this is true, can we preach sound doctrine until people misunderstood us too, because where false doctrine abounds, sound doctrine would abound even more ? No, God forbid. We do not preach sound doctrine until it is is misunderstood as radical doctrine, lawless doctrine, or license to sin, that it will abound even more. If sound doctrine is preached until it is misunderstood, it would no longer be sound doctrine. Similarly, if grace is preached until it is misunderstood, it is no longer the grace of God. 

When Paul said, God forbid - it means a clear commandment not to live in sins, a commandment not to sin with grace, and a commandment to still honour our parents with grace:

• Eph 6:2-3 KJV  Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise;)  (3)  That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.
• Rom 13:9-14 KJV  For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. ..(13) Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.  (14)  But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof. 
•  It is still a commandment to obey the ten commandment too. 

I will tell them, If you always preach the gospel or grace until it is misunderstood, you will not help the people to find true assurance of salvation. Instead they will still feel condemned because of sins. You may preach the 'gospel' every Sunday with much assurance of 'radical grace' or 'no condemnation'. But your 'gospel' that has been preached with too much of misunderstanding can only give them some temporal relief. When they are back and still find that they are condemned because of sins, they will just want to metanoia or misunderstand the gospel, instead of repenting.  

How do we know who are the radical grace preachers?
Radical grace preachers would always say, "Many people from the churches have misunderstood us. They misunderstood the gospel of grace or our gospel revolution. They are so afraid that, when we are not under the law, we would become lawless. They tell us that when you do not have the law, you become lawless. That's the accusation from the devils .. 
We have never preached against God's laws but we would preach that no one can keep God's laws. This is what Jesus told me from the following Bible verses:

1. Jesus told the Pharisees in Mat 5:28 "that whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart".  
2. Jesus said to the rich young ruler in Luk 18:18-25 when he boasted in the law, "One thing you lack .." 

This shows us that Jesus wanted all of us to have no more law, but to just believe in Him only and do nothing."
I will tell them, No, you are the one who have misunderstood us. We are just describing it plainly. For example, if we see a preacher who has no hair, how should we describe him ? You may say, He is a 'bald preacher'. However, I would think that he should not feel offended if we described him as a 'hairless preacher' too. It is just a unique identify we used to differentiate him from the many preachers in a crowded room. No offence. Hence, I would describe him as a 'word-less preacher' if he has no more word or a 'lawless preacher' if he has no more law too. No offence. I don't mean that he is a bad preacher or wicked preacher who did more lawlessness than the rest of us. After all, we are all lawless in the eyes of God because we are all sinners who have transgressed against God's laws (1Jn 3:4). It doesn't matter if we know 'who is more lawless than who'.
Of course, a 'hairless preacher' who feels offended can always argue, "How can you accuse us for being hairless ? The right word you used should be 'bald', not 'hairless'. Give us 10 reasons why you said that we are 'hairless' and we can prove you wrong because we are not ashamed to show you how hairy we are on all parts of our bodies. Haha .." Similarly, I find it ridiculous for a 'lawless preacher' who feels offended to argue in the same way, "How can you accuse us for being lawless ? The right word you used should be 'antinomian', not 'lawless'. Give us 10 reasons why you said that we are 'lawless' and we can prove you wrong by showing how many laws, principles, and rules we have preached 'graciously' in most of our grace teaching. Haha .."   I will tell them, We would think that you are 'hairless' if you have no more hair on your heads, or 'lawless' if you have no more laws in your heads too. We do not need to look at other parts of your bodies. I am not a Bible scholar. And I do not need to argue like one. It doesn't matter if you can prove me wrong with your right word or right argument. The important thing is what kind of impression you give to God and the people ? God is not only concerned with what you preach with your words; but also with what you preach with your hearts. If you have no more law in your hearts and mind, you are indeed a lawless preacher, no matter how well you can preach and argue with your words, principles, or even laws (Heb 8:12, 10:16).   

All sinners are lawless in the eyes of God
I will tell them, You said that we have misunderstood you when you preached "no more laws". I will say, No, you are the one who have misunderstood Jesus (and us who preach His words). The teaching of Jesus is not to have no more laws in your mind but to have Him and His laws all the more in your lives. Jesus was giving the rich young ruler a sincere invitation to accept Him as the Commandment or the Word of God in his life. It was not a cruel test or a hardsaying to push him or all the sinners to the end of themselves so that they will believe only in grace (and Jesus) and reject any God's laws. Jesus would not need to do so because:

1. Jesus knew that all the sinners have transgressed against God's laws. It would not make sense to ask those who had already transgressed against God's laws or rejected God's laws to reject God's laws again. 1Jn 3:4 KJV  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
2. Jesus did not speak those words in Mat 5:28 and  Luk 18:18-25 to the law preachers, Pharisees, or hypocrites; but he spoke those words to His disciples (in the sermon on the mount) and the rich young ruler who were sincere in finding the way of life. Please read the following Bible verses again. Do you think that Jesus had pushed Peter and all His disciples to the end of themselves to reject God's laws too, when Jesus asked them to give up everything to follow Him ?

• Luk 18:18-30 KJV  And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? ... (22)  Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.  (23)  And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich.  (24)  And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!  (25)  For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.  (26)  And they that heard it said, Who then can be saved?  (27)  And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.  (28)  Then Peter said, Lo, we have left all, and followed thee.  (29)  And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or parents, or brethren, or wife, or children, for the kingdom of God's sake,  (30)  Who shall not receive manifold more in this present time, and in the world to come life everlasting. (Peter had received the same invitation from Jesus. Can we say that it was a cruel test and hardsaying for anyone who would keep God's laws and commandments ? No, this is ridiculous.)
• Mar 10:17-30 KJV  And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life? .. (21)  Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.  (22)  And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.  (23)  And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! ...  (28)  Then Peter began to say unto him, Lo, we have left all, and have followed thee.  (29)  And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's,  (30)  But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life. (This another Bible passage about the rich young ruler who was given the 'loving' invitation (v21) to follow Jesus. Hence, I don't think we can conclude that the invitation of Jesus here is to tell us not to keep any commandments, but just to believe in Him only and do nothing.) 

Jesus would never want all His disciples to be lawless because of Him
I will tell them, If you insist that the words of Jesus were hardsayings to push the sinners or the lawless to the end of themselves, yes, you may have a point; but the ultimate point or the full picture is to push them to the end of themselves

• to know that they are sinners,
• to know that they need to repent, 
• to know that there is life in the words, sayings, laws, and commandments of God

• Mat 19:17 KJV  And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
• Joh 6:63-69 KJV  It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.  (64)  But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.  (65)  And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.  (66)  From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.  (67)  Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?  (68)  Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.  (69)  And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.
• Joh 14:21-24 KJV  He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: .. (23)  Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.  (24)  He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. 
• Joh 15:10-12 KJV  If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.  (11)  These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.  (12)  This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
• Rev 22:13-14 KJV  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.  (14)  Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

• to know that there is a need to teach God's laws and His words, and
• to know that no one is too righteous to repent

• Mat 5:17-21 KJV  Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.  (18)  For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.  (19)  Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.  (20)  For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.  (21)  Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: (Jesus did not say that we should be as righteous as the Pharisees, but He said we should be more righteous than the Pharisees who were hypocrites. In another words, 1. All the Jews must still repent even though they thought that they were as righteous as the Pharisees, 2. All of us, who are now in Christ should never follow the deceivableness of unrighteousness (2Th 2:10) that is in the Pharisees or hypocrites too.)

Jesus did not say that He would give no more laws to the believers
They will say, "No, we still think that when Jesus gave the laws to the Pharisees (in Mat 5:28) and the rich young man (in Luk 18:18-25), He did not gave them the laws to justify them; but to convict them of their sins and to show them that they need only more grace instead of more repentance, more laws keeping, or more good works."
I will tell them, Of course, we cannot use the laws to justify any people. But that does not mean that the sinners have no more need for repentance (Mat 9:13, Luk 24:45-47) or that God's people have no more need for God's laws (Heb 8:10, 10:16).

• Mat 9:13 KJV  But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
• Luk 24:45-47 KJV  Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,  .. (47)  And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
• Heb 8:10 KJV  For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
• Heb 10:16-18 KJV  This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;  (17)  And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.  (18)  Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.

I will tell them, You are confused about the law (of the Old Covenant) and the laws of God. The churches would preach clearly that we are no more under the law but we must still have the laws of God in our hearts and mind (Heb 8:10, 10:16). They would not say, "If you are not under the law, you are lawless."; however, they did say, "If you do not think that you have the laws of God, you are lawless, and this is based on the words of God or the laws of God in the New Covenant (Heb 8:10, 10:16)".
Please think, If you rebel and preach something else to convince the thinking of the people to have no more law, what are you trying to do ? Do you think that you are putting the laws of God into the hearts and mind of the people ? No, you are putting 'lawlessness' or 'no more laws' into their mind. You have shown yourselves to be another 'God' who would instead put 'no more laws' into their mind. You have become the lawless ones not because you do much lawlessness or sin lawlessly; but because you preach lawlessness, boast in your craftiness for lawlessness, trade lawlessness against the laws of God, and recruit more lawless preachers in the name of a 'lawless' God. You have preached yourselves happy with a lawless covenant. Please think, If you preach your own covenant which has no more law, no more repentance, no more commandments, and no more judgement, are you sure you will not be judged ? No. I don't think there is any remission of sins. I don't think we can misunderstand God too if we have His words.


What is the cause when there is always misunderstanding ?
I would say that many different 'versions' of explanation would cause much misunderstanding and confusion. If people would always misunderstand us or falsely accuse us, something is obviously wrong with us or with our teachings. There is nothing to be proud of. Yes, we may always blind ourselves and keep thinking that we have preached like Paul and hence we can console one other that we have been falsely accused by others. Yes, it is easy to dismiss all the challenges and questions from others as false accusation, condemnation, or misunderstanding, and use it to rally 'sympathy votes' from the blind majority who may never read their Bible with an enlightened heart or sound mind, but I think we should all be sensible, humble, and honest enough, to ask the question, "What if we have preached the wrong things because we have been deceived ? Can we be deceived if we are not diligent ? Are we told to be diligent or to beware ? Can we fall because of wrong teaching, wrong thinking, wrong motive, or wrong doctrine ?" If we are honest, we would say, "Yes, amen." It is not a condemnation answer if we admit wrong and tell people that we may have heard the wrong voice and confused others, instead of trying hard to revise, revamp, or recycle more and more oxymoron doctrines to patch and cover our back and to impress others that we are very anointed preachers ! No, this would cause more confusion and frustrate those who were misled to argue with the churches after listening to your first 'version' of doing nothing doctrine or radical grace doctrine; but now they are helpless because you have made them look like fools after you have come out with your second 'version' or third 'version' of your radical doctrines.

It is much better to lose something and repent rather than losing our soul and reign 
Jesus said, It is better to 'lose face' or any part of our body if we want to enter the kingdom of heaven. Of course, He did not mean it literally; He meant it figuratively but seriously for the sinners to repent and to change, especially for those who have preached 'oxymoron' doctrines with the hidden motive to gain popularity by confusing others and then later accusing them as the accusers or law preachers who would always accuse like the Pharisees.
In fact, Jesus did not want us to build any 'amputation theatre' when He said in Mat 5:19-23 that it is better for us to cut ourselves or amputate our hands. But He said those words to the disciples because He wanted them to have a truly circumcised heart through repentance, conviction, and 'divine surgery' from the Holy Spirit. Of course, if we read Mat 5:19-23 again with a sincere heart, we would know that He would never tell us that therefore there is no more need to keep any law or commandment; no, He wanted us all to repent and keep God's commandments with a 'circumcised' heart under His teaching, His New Covenant, and His grace.

Please do not mix oxymoron doctrine with the basic fundamental doctrine
I will tell them, You can't forever tell people that they have misunderstood you when you would keep changing, patching, and explaining your radical doctrines. There will be a time when you have confused so many people and become so confused yourselves that you need to go back to the basics and explain yourselves again and again in a cycle, for eg.

• To pray or not to pray
• To repent or not to repent
• To keep God's commandments or not to keep God's commandments
• To obey or not to obey
• To work or not to work
• To have the faith of God or your own faith
• To teach or not to teach
• To serve as servants or to reign like kings
• To preach mixture or to preach pure doctrine
• To romance the 'stone' or to balance the 'stone'
• To preach eternal judgement or to preach no condemnation
• To ...

I hope you know that all these are valid basic questions for the fundamentals.

• Heb 5:11-14 KJV  Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.  (12)  For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.  (13)  For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.  (14)  But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil ... (6:1) Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,  (2)  Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.  (3)  And this will we do, if God permit. (The Hebrew writer has written a total of six principles of the doctrine of Christ here. Many of us could have been misled to think that repentance was not important because it was dead works. However, if you read Heb 6:1 again, it is the foundation of repentance from dead works, not foundation of dead works. Hence, repentance can never be foundation of dead works. Probably you may ask again, Why was grace not mentioned in the principles of the doctrine of Christ above? I believe that grace is considered as part of the foundation of repentance too because true repentance will lead to grace. For brevity and easier understanding, the Hebrew writer has summarized it under the appropriate main fundamental principle. I don't think we should dispute about it.)  

Of course, all the six principles of the doctrine of Christ are important. It would be ridiculous if we say that we should ignore them and stop preaching them because they are too basic for the believers. No, some believers who have not grown up would still need to be taught the foundation:

1. of repentance from dead works and sins, 
2. of faith,
3. of the doctrine of baptism, 
4. of laying of hands,
5. of resurrection of the dead, and 
6. of eternal judgement,

again and again .. Unfortunately this is still true for our churches today. Hence, I would think that it is not good to keep everyone confused in all these basic principles, with many evasive teaching, vain argument, or false accusation, and make the believers go round and round in circles only to find that they have all 'misunderstood' your words, your intention, and your revolution. Hence, the Hebrew writer's has advised us clearly to keep the fundamental doctrine simple, straight, and sound. We can never replace it with radical grace doctrine or vain confession of Jesus Christ alone.

• 2Jn 1:6-10 KJV  And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.  (7)  For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.  (8)  Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.  (9)  Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.  (10)  If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
• 1Jn 4:6 KJV We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error .. 

Can we keep all others under confusion or misunderstanding forever ?
But they will argue, "It is ok to be misunderstood by others. After all, we are not perfect. Your pastors are still learning and they could make mistakes too. Won't you forgive them for all their mistakes ? Do you know how many times, you must forgive others ? Jesus said, 'Seventy times seven times' in . Anyway, Paul had always been misunderstood by the Pharisees and others too. They accused Paul for preaching grace as the license to sin. Hence, the more we are misunderstood by others, the more we are showing to the people that we are preaching the grace of God. If you have never preached the gospel until all people, especially the Pharisees and legalistic people, have misunderstood you, you have not really preached the true gospel or the gospel that Paul preached .."
I will ask them, So, are you saying that all the churches, who did not preach until they have confused everybody, have preached the wrong gospel ? This is ridiculous. If we have to preach until all the people have misunderstood us, we may also have misled them too. Please think, If most of the believers have been misled to think that grace is license to sin, the sinners would be more misled to think so. Hence, we should do more sound teaching to prevent it from happening than multiply more confusion and misunderstanding:

• 2Ti 4:2-5 KJV  Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.  (3)  For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;  (4)  And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.  (5)  But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

You said, We have to forgive you if you made mistakes seventy time seven times. Obviously, you have quoted the Bible out of its context. Firstly, Jesus talked about seventy times seven times we must forgive others, not to make mistakes seventy times seven times and expect others to forgive us forever. No, if we always think of how many times people or God must forgive us, we have missed the point. The point is if we are the ones who have offended others, please make sure that we look at our mistakes, our offence, or our sins seriously and repent before we demand or expect others to forgive us. I think it is totally disgusting if someone had wronged me and he kept using the command of Jesus to Peter to forgive others seventy times seven times as the basis for him to demand kindness or forgiveness from me. Similarly, in the end time, lawless people would quote the Bible out of its context to demand and expect God to forgive them forever. They think that if Peter had to forgive seventy times seven times, so will God forgive all their sins in the past, present, future, and forever too. This is ridiculous. They have probably forgotten to ask themselves, Have we repented in the first place ? If any unrepentant people, who have offended me, came to me and demanded that I must forgive them seventy times seven times based on what Jesus said, I would ask them, "Have you repented sincerely ? Otherwise, do not expect me to forgive you at all". I believe that this is the same message God would give to those who desired or demanded forgiveness from Him with the same 'rotten' attitude:

• Mat 18:21-34 KJV  Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?  (22)  Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.  (23)  Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants.  .. (32)  Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:  (33)  Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?  (34)  And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.

a. justification by faith or by grace is only the beginning of a believer's forgiven life so that he can do more with the words and commandments of God in his life. The grace for cancellation of debts or forgiveness of debts is not given so that we can have more future debts or more future lawlessness. It is certainly not an excuse or license to have more future sins with no more repentance (or to sin wilfully). 

• Luk 13:2-10 KJV  And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?  (3)  I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.  (4)  Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?  (5)  I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.  (6)  He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.  (7)  Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?  (8)  And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it:  (9)  And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.  (10)  And he was teaching in one of the synagogues on the sabbath.

b. Grace is not forever - it is given for the purpose of repentance, turning back to God's commandments, keeping God's laws, and doing His words. Grace is not given for the purpose of enjoying or living in lawlessness forever. Grace is not there forever if we are forever lawless in our hearts or minds. However, if we repent, keep the commandments of God, and live with the laws of God in our hearts and minds, God will remember all our lawlessness no more and He will be our God forever: 

• Heb 10:16-17 LITV  "This is the covenant which I will covenant to them after those days, says the Lord: Giving My Laws on their hearts, and I will write them on their minds;"  (17)  also He adds, "I will not at all still remember their sins" and their lawlessnesses. ..  
• Heb 8:10 LITV  Because this is the covenant which I will covenant with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord, giving My Laws into their mind, and I will write them on their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be My people." 
• Luk 19:8-10 LITV  But standing, Zaccheus said to the Lord, Behold, Lord, half of my possessions I give to the poor. And if in anything I accused anyone falsely, I restore it fourfold.  (9)  And Jesus said to him, Today salvation has come to this house, for he also is a son of Abraham.  (10)  For the Son of Man came to seek and to save the one being lost.

Hence, the cancellation of debt or forgiveness of debt is not given so that a believer can have more future debt or lawlessness forever. It is certainly not an excuse or license to have more future sin or lawlessness without any repentance. However, many preachers have deceived the believers into thinking that they can literally expect forgiveness of all their future sins, and even supernatural cancellation of all their future financial debts, if they will just radically believe or do and teach their 'holy communion's blood cleansing' ritual, 'pure grace' confession, 'supernatural' favour, 'mind changing' philosophy, or 'false repentance' to disregard and to 'repent' from all the laws and commandments of God. I did write about some preachers who have managed to quote the Bible out of context and capitalise on this 'supernatural' deception or 'cancellation of debts' to transfer effortless wealth to themselves. (see "Supernatural cancellation of debts - Is it really a supernatural transfer of wealth, a religious gimmick, or just a vain religious boasting?" in my previous post here.)

If we do not want others to misunderstand us, tell others and ourselves not to have the 'rotten' attitude
They will argue, "Why do you think that it is a 'rotten' attitude ? On what basis do you think it is a 'rotten' attitude ? We do not think that it is a 'rotten' attitude if we desire, think, or become obsessed for the grace or the goodness of God before we could repent. After all, we believe that grace or the goodness of God will always lead us to repentance automatically. However, many preachers today have focused on repentance. They have put the cart before the horse. They have focused on the wrong thing. Obviously they are ignorant and they could be the Pharisees or law preachers who are against us and our preaching of grace. They could be under the law, under the danger, and the double curse of preaching the law and another gospel. Only the gospel that Paul preached or we preach is the true gospel. God told me in an audible voice and said, Son, you must preach more about grace, not repentance, because repentance or the old doctrine would have to go when the new has come .."
I will tell them, You asked, On what basis do you think it is a rotten attitude. I say, On the basis of what they have taught or done. Jesus told us that by their fruits we shall know them (Mat 7:15-22). Hence, rotten attitude will produce rotten fruits. You may ask what is their rotten attitude ? I will say, Although Jesus did not identify their rotten attitude, from their behaviour we can gather that they had the attitude and thinking that:

1. they had 'effortless' favour, and so they do not need to do anything in repentance
2. they had 'unlimited' grace, and so they can never be condemned even if they go around and behave like the hooligans in the parable Mat 18:21-34

Hence, the teaching of grace and forgiveness from the Lord in most of His parables can never blend very well with the modern radical grace philosophies. It's because they would always teach the people that:

1. they can just think about 'effortless' favour and goodness of God and it will be well with them. It will lead them to repentance automatically without doing or showing any fruits of repentance. However, Jesus showed us that this is not always the case in His parable (Mat 18:21-34).
2. they can just think about 'unlimited' grace and they can never fall. No, this is a lie. If thinking about God's grace can never be condemned, why was the servant who was misled by his own thinking condemned Mat 18:21-34 ? If all the believers would just need to think of God's abundant grace without taking heed to God's words and commandments, they would find contradiction when Paul gave them the warning or the possibility that they could fall, including himself: 

• 1Co 9:18-27 KJV  What is my reward then? Verily that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel.  (19)  For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.  ..  (22)  To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.  (23)  And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.  .. (26)  I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:  (27)  But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
• Rom 12:3 KJV  For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.
• Act 20:28-31 KJV  Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.  (29)  For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.  (30)  Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.  (31)  Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. (Please think, If believers can never fall, do you think it is necessary for Paul to warn the believers and pray for them with tears day and night ? Of course, it would not make sense for Paul and us to preach that the believers can never fall or abuse the grace of God too.)

Hence, I am not surprised to hear teaching which says that they must only preach the gospel that Paul preached. However, I know that they are actually trying to tell the people that they should listen to the 'gospel' that they preached, not the gospel that Jesus preached or Paul preached. I will tell them, No, the teaching, the warnings, and the gospel that Jesus preached is what we must still preach:

• Paul confirmed that his warnings are for those who are purchased by the blood of Jesus and are in the churches (Act 20:28-31).
• Paul confirmed that he would obey gospel of Christ not his own gospel: Act 26:19-21 KJV  Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision:  (20)  But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.  (21)  For these causes the Jews caught me in the temple, and went about to kill me.
• Jesus confirmed it to Peter that he had to forgive others and should not behave like the 'rotten' servant who had received forgiveness and grace (Mat 18:21-34).
• Jesus confirmed it to all His disciples that they must preach all that He has commanded them: Mat 28:19-20 KJV  Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:  (20)  Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.  
• Luk 24:45-48 KJV  Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,  (46)  And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:  (47)  And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.  (48)  And ye are witnesses of these things. 

How should God's people deal with misunderstanding or false accusations ?
The radical grace preachers will say, "No, you've all misunderstood us. Some of you are so jealous that you would falsely accuse us. Please understand, When I condemned those who preach many good works or 'do good get good' principles, I was only condemning the Pharisees or those who teach people to do many church works like they are doing the laws. Of course, I am not against doing Christ's works. Please check all our sermons. We have never condemned anyone who do good work in the Lord. We condemned only those who do not know how to do good work in the Lord or Christ's works, effortlessly like us. We condemn church work as dead work if it is done without Christ; not Christ's works !"
I will tell them, Oh, If we would really check your sermons, we would find tons of craps, oxymoron, contradiction, and radical philosophies. Please think, How do you divide or distinguish between what is church works and Christ's works, or between church work that is dead work and church work that is in the Lord ? How can you condemn anyone who did church works or judge his works, when you can never be the one who can tell whether he did it in the Lord or without the Lord ? Only the Lord can judge because only He has the full knowledge of what the person think in his heart.
So, how can you judge if there are many churches or believers doing church works or good works, with or without doing it for the Lord ? No, I would not go and condemn anyone who does church works or good works and condemn all of them as the 'Pharisees' or law preachers ! I would rather think that most of the churches who do many good works are doing it in the Lord, and we don't need to condemn anyone with the use of 'radical grace' or 'lawless revolution'. Otherwise, we would give the wrong impression to the ignorant and those who would not like to do any good works. The bottom line is: What are you trying to do when there are so many people who misunderstood your radical grace message or revolution ? Do you take advantage of the situation to increase your popularity and create more confusion, or do you repent and seek reconciliation and forgiveness from those whom you have wrongly accused by admitting wrong ? I leave it to you. I rest my case.


The more we receive grace, the more we should be fair and gracious to our fellow preachers too
As I have said in my previous posts on 'prosperity', I am not against preachers who are rich (I myself am rich also) but I am disgusted by preachers who lie about God's words, pervert God's commandments, and create Bible controversies, to 'prosper' or multiply on it. Most of us would now agree that 'radical grace' preachers are generally richer than the 'law' preachers or 'repentance' preachers. However, I believe that it is not because they are more favoured or more anointed than other preachers as they claimed; but it is because they have created many Bible controversies, do nothing controversies, law and grace controversies, no more future sins, no more God's commandments, no more obedience (but only Christ's obedience), no more confession of sins, no more conviction of sins, no more 'do good get good' principles, no more servanthood or works, no more repentance to God to do good and to do God's commandments .. but many more radical doctrines, revolution, and oxymoron which would never teach the young to do good and to build their characters. But when they have the 'fills of their mouth' and prosper, they will just revert back to teaching of many God's laws, God's principles, and God's commandments to do good, and will then turn back against all the churches who have misunderstood them and label the churches as the 'Pharisees' or the 'false accusers'. They would condemn the churches as the 'big brothers' or religious brothers who are jealous of them because they  could receive 'better grace' and prosper more than the churches. They would persuade the people that they, being the prodigal son who sinned, are more blessed than the churches who keep God's commandments. It could be a brilliant idea but it is a bad idea. Why ?
It is because the Lord has prophesied that there would be 'prodigal son' who could receive grace and forgiveness but they might not have truly repented. They would think that they have received better grace (radical grace) and hence they can never be condemned if they sin (wilfully) against others. But they will ultimately lose everything:

• Mat 18:23-34 KJV  .. (31)  So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done.  (32)  Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:  (33)  Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?  (34)  And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him. (This warning is very similar to the warning given in Heb 10:26-29. So, how can you say that the Lord's warning and all His hardsayings are Old Testament teachings ?)

Many of us may still wonder how can the preaching of grace become so ungracious. How can any radical grace preachers behave like the ungracious servant above ? I will tell them, It is very possible for someone who have received grace to preach, boast, and use the grace they have received to deal harshly on their fellow brothers. Please think, Why would so many sinners, naive believers, or bitter believers jump to the conclusion that most churches are religious, law-conscious, and condemning when the churches would preach, correct, or condemn any form of wrong doctrines or lawless doctrine ? Thanks and no thanks to the radical grace revolution, oxymoron, or lawless teaching which has led them to misunderstanding, confusion, and a false repentance which is a only form of mind changing philosophies without any preaching of turning from sins:

• 2Ti 3:1-10 KJV  This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.  (2)  For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,  (3)  Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,  (4)  Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;  (5)  Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.  (6)  For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,  (7)  Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.  (8)  Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.  (9)  But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.  (10)  But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,

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I believe in eternal judgement

Many radical grace preachers would argue, "Why do you talk about judgement ? It is a negative word from the Bible. Today, we need grace, not judgement. We should talk more  about this .. and that .., not things that cause condemnation and fear. Whatever that gives rise to fear is of the devil .. "
I will tell them, You said that it is a negative word from the Bible. Yes, it is indeed a negative word from the Bible. However, It also means that it is God's word ! If it is in the Bible, we will read it, we will think about it, and we will preach it too. If God does not want us to do anything with it, He would have removed it from the Bible or told us not to preach it. But have you ever thought why it is written for us in our Bible ? Like what you have said, "Those who are negative would think that everything is negative. They would murmur against everything that is from God, including radical grace, prosperity, blessings, health, and wealth ..". So, can you please try to think of it as something positive too even if eternal judgement is negative to 'some people' ?
The other reason why I believe in eternal judgement is because I begin to ponder more on it after I wrote about repentance in my previous post - "To preach repentance or not to preach repentance ?" :

"Yes, repentance may be an old doctrine, but it is not an Old Testament doctrine. It could be a very basic and old doctrine but it does not mean that it is unimportant doctrine. In fact, it is so basic and important, for every believer who are saved, that the Apostles would think that something was wrong if they would still need to teach the believers to know how to be saved again:

• Heb 5:11-14 KJV  Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.  (12)  For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.  (13)  For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.  (14)  But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil ... (6:1) Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,  (2)  Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.  (3)  And this will we do, if God permit.

Of course, all the above doctrines are important for the gospel of salvation. It would be ridiculous if we say that we should ignore them and stop preaching them because they are too basic for the believers. No, some believers who have not grown up would still need to be taught repentance, baptism, faith, and eternal judgement again and again .. Unfortunately this is still true for our churches today.

Grace, repentance, and many other fundamental doctrines are indispensable; they are not mutually exclusive

• 2Jn 1:6-10 KJV  And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.  (7)  For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.  (8)  Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.  (9)  Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.  (10)  If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed : 

• 1Jn 4:6 KJV We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error ..

If you read the Bible, you will know that all sinners have been taught on how to receive grace under the New Covenant by Jesus Himself (see all His parables eg. the parable of the prodigal son, the rich man and Lazarus, the Pharisee and the publican who prayed in the temple .. etc. How can the parables and teaching of the Lord be old doctrine if He specifically commanded His disciples to teach all that He had commanded them before His resurrection and also after His resurrection too ? The disciples had preached repentance before His resurrection (Mar 6:12-13), but they could only understand it fully after the Lord's resurrection when He opened their eyes to believe the scriptures in Luk 24:25-47. At the end of the Lord's thorough exposition of the scriptures, they were commanded to preach repentance - Isn't this the crux of the whole scriptures, the whole gospel, and His main ministry? Will Jesus change it by telling us to preach only remission of sins, blessings, prosperity, or the goodness of God instead ? No way !"

So, "eternal judgement", like the doctrine of repentance, is a basic important fundamental doctrine which every believer must know and believe as the foundation of their salvation. It is known as one of the six main principles of the doctrine of Christ in Heb 6:1-2. Hence, I don't see any problem if we tell the church to teach these principles to every believer before they can move on and walk with the Spirit. We cannot afford to ignore these principles totally and dismiss them as negative teaching or doctrine; we can only build on it. Hence, the doctrine of Christ is called the basic foundation or principle because it is something which everyone of us must build on even if we think that we have attained it and become highly spiritual; we don't just ignore it, replace it, belittle it, or let it to be trodden under foot. However, if anyone will insult and destroy the foundation that God has built, God will destroy him:

• 1Co 3:12-23 KJV  Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;  (13)  Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. ..  (17)  If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.  (18)  Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.  (19)  For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.  (20)  And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.  (21)  Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;  (22)  Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours;  ..
• Heb 10:26-30 KJV  For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,  (27)  But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.  (28)  He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:  (29)  Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?  (30)  For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. (I will talk about Heb 10:26 again in more detailed later. But can we twist it and argue that this warning is not for God's people? No, it says very clearly that God will judge His people; not other people. When He used the comparison of a sorer punishment, He confirmed again that He was comparing and warning two of His people - one who despised Moses' law under the Old Covenant, and another who will dishonour the Spirit of grace under the New Covenant. Please think, who were able to despised Moses' law? Of course, nobody except the Jews or God's people who were given the law? Similarly, who can dishonour the Spirit of grace? Of course, no one, except God's people who have been given the grace of God too?)

Yes, it may not make sense to tell the believers many years ago to read Heb 10:26-30 and be warned of anyone who will sin wilfully and trodden the things of God under their feet. However, it  make sense now to give such warning to the churches as we see so many false teachers who have crept in and defiled the 'temple' or the foundation of the Church; let him be doubly cursed and judged according to the words of God. I don't think all the true believers of God would disagree with the judgement in the Bible verses above.
Hence, I find it ridiculous to continue to promote radical grace without judgement and condemnation of sins. If we can teach and preach about grace, repentance, and judgement, I don't see any reason why we cannot teach and preach God's commandments and judgement on those who are unrepentant sinners, criminals, false prophets, false believers, and those who have turned to the false doctrines which promote themselves with lots of lies, false assurance, vain prosperity, and perverted liberty (or license to sin) :

• 1Pe 2:15-16 KJV  For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:  (16)  As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.
• 2Pe 2:12-21 KJV  .. .. (17)  These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.  (18)  For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.  (19)  While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.  (20)  For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.  (21)  For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
• Jas 2:10-15 KJV  For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.  (11)  For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.  (12)  So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.  (13)  For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.  (14)  What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?  (15)  If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, .. (Many radical grace preachers have problem with these Bible verses. So, their solution to the sinners who are still lawless and unrepentant is - "Since no one can obey all God's laws, they have no more burden to keep any law now". And they continue to lie that it is the will of the Lord when He spoke against those who had lust in their mind Mat 5:28. I will tell them, No, you have taken the Bible and the Lord's message of repentance out of its context. Please read it again. Of course, the Lord did not mean that we need to have an amputation theatre; but He certainly meant that we need to have a circumcised heart to enter His kingdom. Hence, it is clearly the will of the Lord and the Father for us to repent and to obey all God's commandments !)
• Rom 2:21-29 KJV  Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself? thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal?  (22)  Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege?  (23)  Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?  (24)  For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.  (25)  For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.  (26)  Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?  (27)  And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?  (28)  For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:  (29)  But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. 

Eternal judgement will come after the sin of the false doctrine (or tares) is ripen
They will boast, "What ? This is crazy. Are you going to talk about judgement and tell people that it is part of your doctrine. You are preaching condemnation. Only the devil will preach condemnation, fear, and judgement. How can anyone listen to you. But look at us. Look at the most expensive church which we have built. Many people are jealous of us. We are not smart but we have prospered more. And we do it more effortless than many others churches. Why ? It is because we are under grace, we preach the true gospel, and we promote the radical grace gospel and revolution. That's why we have favours and prosperity. We can never fall. We can never die. We can boast about the grace of God because we believe in grace. We are convicted to believe in grace, not conviction to believe in condemnation. Hence, where is judgement for us ? Where is repentance ?"
I will tell them, Ok, ok, yes, you are richer because you believe in grace. But it means nothing to me to earn more or less. It is like asking, Who can earn the most between a lawyer or a liar ? Of course, a liar ! The liars may not be smart but they can lie better than the lawyers and that's why they may prosper more. Yes, you don't have to be smart to earn more or prosper more in the religious circle too. But the question is: Will you be bothered if you prosper more with the integrity of your words and principles ? You may keep argue and deny about it but God will be the final judge. Judgement has not come yet because it is not fully ripen for your doctrine to be exposed yet. The Lord is waiting for the harvest to grow and be ripen, into the good crop or bad crop, and then He will reap the earth. This is the sure promise or prophecy of the Lord, not something which I've cooked up, ok ?  

• Mat 13:30 KJV  Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
• Rev 14:14-19 KJV  And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.  (15)  And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.  (16)  And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.  (17)  And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.  (18)  And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.  (19)  And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.
• Rev 3:14-19 KJV  And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;  (15)  I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.  (16)  So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.  (17)  Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:  (18)  I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.  (19)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

Hence, whenever I heard 'anointed' preachers who keep persuading and convincing others that they are more anointed than others and say, "I heard audible voice from God which tells me, 'Son, I want you to preach only grace, only prosperity, or only Jesus, without the teaching of the Lord, without the commandment or warning of the Lord, without repentance, faith, resurrection, and eternal judgement .. They are not pure grace . They are mixture. They are leavens, ..', another quiet voice from the Bible would tell me, 'Son, it is a lie. Don't believe it'. How can God's fundamental doctrine of salvation in Heb 6:1-2 be considered as mixture or leavens and be trodden under foot ? 

• Mat 24:23-26 KJV  Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ (the anointed one), or there; believe it not.  (24)  For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.  (25)  Behold, I have told you before.  (26)  Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers (or he is in the internet or podcast); believe it not.

We don't make unfair judgement against the Lord's teaching of repentance, eternal judgement, and the law of God 
They will argue, "What possible things could come from the preaching of eternal judgement, repentance, God's commandments, condemnation, and negative words ? It will only make people more depressed and negative. Some of them have even committed suicide because they felt so condemned that they can no longer live any more ..."
I will tell them, Just because some sinners, false prophets, or mental patients have committed suicide we cannot justify that preaching of God's commandment and repentance is negative. Please think, Just because Judas Iscariot had repented and then committed suicide, can we also conclude that repentance would cause depression and lead people to suicide ? This is ridiculous:

• Mat 27:3-5 KJV  Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,  (4)  Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that.  (5)  And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.

It is also very unfair to all those who preach repentance and the commandments of God. Definitely something is wrong if people would always use the logics of feeling depression, dejection, guilty, and suicidal tendency from the people to argue against the preaching of God's words. I don't think preachers who keep arguing with this type of logics are God's preachers. God's preachers would never use this kind of blind logics to deceive those who do not like God's commandments and give them the wrong impression that any preaching of God's laws or repentance is negative. They could be false prophets:

• Act 23:2-3 KJV  And the high priest Ananias commanded them that stood by him to smite him on the mouth.  (3)  Then said Paul unto him, God shall smite thee, thou whited wall: for sittest thou to judge me after the law, and commandest me to be smitten contrary to the law?
• Jas 4:11-12 KJV  Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.  (12)  There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?

Don't 'play' around with God's judgement !
They will argue, "But I really hear the voice of God. He said, "Son, why are you preaching so much condemnation and judgement doctrine. Don't you know that I am a God of love. I will never judge the people now. Under the Old covenant, I was a judging God; but now I am a loving God. Under the law, I was a God of wrath; but under grace, I am a God who prospers. Under law, I demand; but under grace, I supply. Don't discredit my people. Don't preach judgement. Only the devil will judge and condemn.."
I will tell them, Are you sure you hear from God ? They will say, "Of course, I heard an audible voice one day when I was watching the TVs .. Oops I think I heard the voice when I was having my holidays .. Even the piano played by itself when I said, "There is no more law, no more judgement, and no more condemnation .." 
I will tell them, No, whatever reason you gave can never hide your lies. How can it be from God if God's words have said clearly that eternal judgement is one of the principle of doctrine of Christ (Heb 6:1-2) which every believer must know ?

• Heb 6:1-3 KJV  Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,  (2)  Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.  (3)  And this will we do, if God permit.

You may put up a fantastic 'stage show' and convince the people that God will never judge your lies or lawless doctrine, but you can never deceive those who know the Bible. You may make the piano play music by itself or make your lawless doctrines sound very good on the stage but it can never be from God.


We should not hide the wrath of God with lies or radical grace
We should not hide the wrath of God with lies or radical grace if we cannot turn the wrath of God from all sinners. However, radical grace preachers always say that we should never preach the wrath of God or eternal judgement to any sinner or believer. They said that God told them not to do so in their dreams, in their visions, in their holidays, in their pianos, or in their lies. I will tell them, If God told you not to preach the truth, He was not God no matter how He spoke to you. He could be the inner 'voice' in you or your inner 'God' you worship but it is not the God of my Bible. My Bible tells me that God is the judge. Jesus will also be the judge when He comes back too. There will be wrath to come when they judge the world and those who believe not His call to repentance:

• Joh 3:36 KJV  He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
• 1Th 1:9-10 KJV  For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God;  (10)  And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
• 1Th 5:9 KJV  For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
• Rev 11:18 KJV  And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

• The gospel of Jesus Christ tells us that we are saved from the wrath of God, which will be poured out onto the sinners and the world in the end time. However, we are saved because we repent and believe. 

However, can we complain that the churches have preached a 'condemning' gospel because they mentioned the wrath of God against sins whenever they preached the gospel of repentance ? Can we advise them to change the 'wrath of God' to 'radical grace' or remove it from the Bible ? or to preach the gospel as follows:

• The gospel of Jesus Christ tells us that we are saved from the wrath of God, which will be poured out on the sinners and the world in the end time, because we can just 'change our mind' and believe..  Hence, wrath is deleted and will no longer be mentioned in the true gospel of Jesus Christ ..
• The gospel of Jesus Christ tells us that we are saved because God loves all sinners, murderers, thieves, hypocrites, and false preachers, regardless of what they do and whether they will repent or not. God is not offended by our sins or lies. God loves us too much to be offended even by our future sins, future wrongdoings, future lies, or lawlessness .. Haha, no more wrath for us in the gospel of Jesus Christ ! We can never fall. Haha, we can never die .. we will prosper, we can fly, we will ..,  we will live like christs, like gods, like Adam, .. like the good old days (in the garden) !
  

Those who have unrepentant spirit will try to hide the wrath of God
I will tell them, Yes, if you hide the wrath of God or say that there is no more wrath, you may help many people to feel less condemned, but you may also have the hidden intention to make the repentance preaching of the Lord of none effect. Please think, If you argue vehemently that "there is no more wrath of God or no more preaching of wrath" to all the sinners, do you think there is still a need for you to preach salvation to them ? No. This is common sense. If there is no more wrath of God to everyone, everyone is saved. If everyone is saved and not under the wrath, what's the point of preaching salvation or repentance ? Everyone can still be saved by just hearing the 'prosperity gospel' too. Hence, telling the sinners that "there is no more wrath, no more judgement, no more commandments, no more our obedience for us, no more teaching of godly or moral instructions for our children, no more doing good for the believers, or no more .." is like telling the sinners today (and the sinners in Nineveth; and in Sodom and Gomorrha) that there is no more need to do repentance, keep God's commandments, or do anything, but just HEAR the 'radical grace' gospel ONLY (or just meditate on all the 'positive' Bible verses from their Facebook only). This reminds me of the Lord's warning again -  It can never be the gospel of Jesus Christ:

• Mat 7:20-24 KJV  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.  (21)  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.  (22)  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?  (23)  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.  (24)  Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
• Luk 6:46-48 KJV  And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?  (47)  Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:  (48)  He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood (false doctrine) arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. (Hence, Jesus said clearly that He would not just want us to have right believing, right faith, right miracles, right preaching, or right confession only; he wants us to have right doing with His words too, because right doing would prove that we are His true disciples on the rock of salvation.)
• Mat 13:23-25 KJV  But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.  (24)  Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:  (25)  But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
• Joh 14:23-25 KJV (23) Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. (24) He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.  (25)  These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. 
• Mat 24:4-26 KJV  And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.  (5)  For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.  ..  (10)  And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.  (11)  And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.  (12)  And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.  (13)  But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.  (14)  And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.  (15)  When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) .. (23)  Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.  (24)  For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.  (25)  Behold, I have told you before.  (26)  Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. (False prophets may have blocked us from their secret 'chambers', 'podcast', 'chat rooms', or 'internet accounts', where they would boast that they are the 'christs', the 'very anointed', or the 'very favoured ones'; or that as Christ is, so are they. But not all God's elect will believe this nonsense.)  

I will tell them,You may argue vehemently that everyone should be saved automatically whenever they will just hear your radical grace preaching (just because you have convinced them that radical grace will show them only the goodness of God and the goodness of God will automatically lead them to repentance ?) No, it is just your lie or excuse. You do not have the intention to lead them to repent or to turn away from their sins. Your real intention is to confuse them so that they will not repent or think of the need to repent. If you have the real intention to ask them to repent, to sin no more, or turn away from their sins, you would not 'beat around bush' and tell them just to believe or change their mind.
However, a true believer will not listen to your radical grace arguments, excuses, and lies. They will not just believe and do nothing. They will not just change their mind from thinking of unbelief to believing. They will not just change their mind from feeling condemned to feeling of no more condemnation without any conviction of the Holy Spirit (or the sin conscience) to repent from all their former dead works, lifestyle, thinking, and hidden sins. They will not just hide the wrath of God by trying to lie about their repentance and blaspheming the conviction of the Holy Spirit as the conviction of the devil and the condemnation from Satan. How do we know that some radical grace preachers do not have the real intention to repent or to preach repentance from sins or lawlessness ? We know that when they find all kinds of excuses and arguments:

1. to mock at other repentance preachers   
2. to advise the sinners and believers to repent later. Zacchaeus did not only repent with his mind immediately but he also repented with his action too. Jesus immediately said, "This day is salvation come to this house" Luke 19:9. What does this Bible verse show us ? It shows us that Jesus would never tell the sinners to repent later at their own convenience.
3. to encourage the sinners to delay repentance; but expect and demand for God's goodness now. Do you know that Jesus would preach eternal and irreversible judgement because He did not want the sinners to delay repentance ? He taught us that there was no turning back for the rich man and Lazarus who died (Luk 16:30); the moment they died, no amount of repentance will work. 
4. to reverse the order of repentance and forgiveness of sin. If the sinners are all confused about the order of repentance, I don't think there will be any sinners who will repent. This is common sense. Please think, If we rewrite the Bible so that the order of repentance in Act 2:38 and all other Bible verses are changed, what will happen ? eg. Act 2:38 KJV Then Peter said unto them, Be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and then repent ??, .. Everyone will just want to be baptized and forget about repentance, after they have been baptized.
5. to belittle the importance of the doctrine of Christ on repentance 
6. to repent insincerely or casually by believing only or by changing their mind only
7. to receive grace merely as their indemnity against the wrath of God (in the future) without any repentant spirit or humility (the servant in Matt 18 was a clear example of such radical behaviour and mentality) Mat 18:32-34 KJV  Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:  (33)  Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?  (34)  And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him. The servant above shows us that those who desire grace and receive grace may not have true repentance, whilst the publican in Luk 18:13-14 showed that those who have true repentance will always find grace. Now if you were a preacher, will you tell the sinners to focus on grace and think like the servant in Matt 18; or to focus on repentance instead and repent like the sinner in Luk 18 ? You decide, Which one will you preach: grace will lead to true repentance or true repentance will lead to grace ? If I were you I will decide on the later.
8. to radically misinterpret all the Bible doctrine against unrepentant spirits as applicable only to the agnostics (eg. confession or admitting of sins (1 John 1:9), conviction of the Holy Spirit (Joh 16:8), warning against unrepentant spirits (Heb 6:4-6, Heb 10:26), warning against false liberty (2Pe 2:19-21), warning against license to sin (Jud 1:4), and warning against false doctrines (2Ti 4:2-3)). 

I will tell them, Yes, 1 John 1:9 and John 3:16, like many other Bible verses, are probably preached to the agnostics and non-believers. The Book of Hebrews was probably written only the Hebrews or the Jews too. However, if we ask the true believers today, most of them would still say that these Bible verses including John 3:16 and Hebrews are for them because they have believed. On the other hand, the agnostics would argue vehemently that none of those Bible verses are for them. Why ? It's because they would never believe the Bible. Hence, if we find any preacher arguing against any Bible verses today, we should beware. He may have fantastic Bible knowledge and wisdom to preach radically against all the doctrine, warnings, godly instructions, and commandments in the Bible, but he could be just a great agnostic who would never believe the Bible.

• 2Ti 3:13-17 KJV  But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.  (14)  But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;  (15)  And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.  (16)  All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:  (17)  That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
• 2Ti 4:1-5 KJV  I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;  (2)  Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.  (3)  For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;  (4)  And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.  (5)  But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

The gospel which does not give the full picture may not be the true gospel  I have heard radical grace believers who said, "We are interested only in the positive grace teaching of God's words, such as radical grace or the grace revolution. No more condemnation, please. It's because today no one would be interested to hear the 'badnews' any more. If we preach the negative things, we are not preaching the 'Goodnews' or the gospel of Jesus Christ; we are preaching the 'badnews' and condemnation. However, my Bible tells me that those who preach condemnation against the gospel of grace would be doubly cursed:

• Gal 1:6-9 KJV  I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:  (7)  Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.  (8)  But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.  (9)  As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

I will tell them, Please read your Bible again. Paul did not say that those who were doubly cursed were those who did not preach radical grace, pure grace, or any grace. Paul said those who were cursed were those who preach all 'types' of grace and pervert grace. You should be aware of Jude's warning about the possibility of preaching 'another' grace too:

• Jud 1:3-4 KJV  Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.  (4)  For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. (Jude said that believing or preaching the wrong grace to people will affect their salvation.)

I will tell them, You said that to preach grace, we must preach only the positive things. I would say that thinking with this mentality is like a fanatic believer who had gone to the doctor for treatment; but when the doctor told him that his cancer was called xxxx .... and the cause of it was due to ..., he would immediately interrupt, tell the doctor to shut up, and say, "Please don't tell me anything about it. Just tell me when will I be cured and out of the hospital ?"  Hence, I find it ridiculous to preach the gospel of salvation without telling the people about the wrath of God or eternal judgement. How can we give people the full picture or the true picture of the gospel or salvation if we do not tell them what they are saved from ? If they do not know the wrath of God, how can they appreciate the value of their salvation or know their salvation ? That's why I find it ridiculous to preach a smiling God who can never become angry no matter what we do. Obviously, those who accuse the churches of preaching an angry God do not know their Bible or the true picture of the gospel. I will ask them, Did you choose to close your eyes every time when you read the "wrath of God" in your Bible ? Do you know how many times the word "wrath" appeared in your Bible ? 47 times in the KJV Bible (in the New Testament). Do you know that the word "wrath" means "anger" in your dictionary and it always refers to the "anger of God" ? How can we tell the sinners that God can never be angry with anyone of them no matter what they do ? (see To preach a smiling God or an angry God).
When a preacher preaches only the 'positive' side of the gospel and makes it appear even more positive by 'deleting' all the Bible passages which contain the words "wrath of God" or by 'blocking' others from preaching the wrath of God, he reminded me of the way most radical grace preachers would block their blogs, internet websites, forums, or facebook accounts from receiving any negative comments, except the positive comments from their own fans and friends. Does it ring a bell to you ? Yes, their websites may be very 'positive' with tons of positive comments, praises, songs, jokes, videos, or testimonies, but they do not present the full picture or true picture. If they do not present the full picture or true picture of their websites, neither will they present the full picture or the true picture of the gospel.


The true gospel which gives the full picture of the gospel must embrace all the important principles of the doctrine of Christ
Today we have many preachers who want to preach the glorious salvation or the gospel which can save more 'positively'. We can easily classify them into 3 main categories based on what they preach:

1. Those who preach and tell people to believe ONLY and be saved because of these Bible verses which tell them to believe only: Act 15:11-12 KJV  But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.  (12)  Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them. Act 16:29-31 KJV  Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas,  (30)  And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?  (31)  And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. Rom 10:9-10 KJV  That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.  (10)  For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
2. Those who preach and tell people to call the name of the Lord ONLY and be saved because of these Bible verses which tell them to call only: Act 2:21 KJV  And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. Rom 10:13-14 KJV  For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.  (14)  How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
3. Those who preach and tell people to be baptised ONLY and be saved because of these Bible verses which tell them to do so only: Mar 16:15-16 KJV  And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.  (16)  He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Act 2:38-42 KJV  Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.  .. (41)  Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.  (42)  And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. Act 10:47-48 KJV  Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?  (48)  And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. .. Act 11:15-16 KJV  And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.  (16)  Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. Act 22:16 KJV  And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord. Gal 3:25-27 KJV  But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.  (26)  For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.  (27)  For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

• Now I will ask them, If we are saved by believing only, calling the name of the Lord only, or being baptised only, does it mean that I should also preach and tell people to repent ONLY and they will be saved because of the following Bible verses too ? Act 11:18 KJV  When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life. 2Co 7:10-11 KJV  For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.  (11)  For behold this selfsame thing, that ye sorrowed after a godly sort, what carefulness it wrought in you, yea, what clearing of yourselves, yea, what indignation, yea, what fear, yea, what vehement desire, yea, what zeal, yea, what revenge! In all things ye have approved yourselves to be clear in this matter.

Does it mean that, if we will just stick to one of the Bible verses above and confess it radically, we would be saved ? No, of course, we are not saved by just repenting only, by laying on of hands only, or by blinding ourselves from all other Bible verses that tell us to believe, to call on the name of the Lord, to die to sinful self, to take up our cross, and to follow Jesus. They will ask, "Must we do so much ? What should we do to be saved ?" I will tell them, Of course, we can't just do nothing or do 'self-effort' to get saved, but we can do God's words or do according to all the words of God to get saved. Hence, we have to pay attention to all the commands of the Lord when we read His words; eg: to see

- whether there is the word 'and' in the same Bible verse or
- whether there are other Bible verses, above it, below it, in other chapters, or in other parts of the Bible. 

Otherwise, we are not helping the people to see the full picture. Now, does it make sense why we said that the true gospel is the gospel which will give people the full picture and true picture ? Of course, we do this, not because we want to find fault with all the lazy or slothful preachers; but because we want to save people with the true gospel and full gospel. This is not finding fault; but finding truth in the doctrine of Christ:

1. Mar 1:14-15 KJV  Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,  (15)  And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
2. Act 19:4-7 KJV  Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.  (5)  When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.  
3. (6)  And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.  (7)  And all the men were about twelve.
4. Rom 5:9 KJV  Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
5. Gal 3:25-27 KJV  But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.  (26)  For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.  (27)  For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
6. 1Th 1:10 KJV  And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come. 

Do you realise that all the Bible verses above are important for people who are saved ? They are normally classified as the six major principles of the doctrine of Christ. Now do you understand why we would still preach the gospel of salvation with repentance, faith, baptism, laying of hands, eternal judgement, and resurrection. The are called the fundamental doctrine of salvation or the six important principles of the doctrine of Christ because they were written all over the Bible which will point people to Christ and salvation. Paul had said, "If God permit, we should leave the doctrine of salvation and the principles of the doctrine of Christ and teach more on the  doctrine which will discern false doctrines from God's doctrines, and vice versa ..". However, I am afraid we are still not ready. Some of us are too 'fat' to move. I would say that we have a long way to go, looking at the condition of the churches today:

• Heb 5:12-14 KJV  For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.  (13)  For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.  (14)  But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. (6:1-3) Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation:

1. of repentance from dead works,
2. and of faith toward God,  
3. (2)  Of the doctrine 
4. of baptisms, 
5. and of laying on of hands,  (of the ministries of healing and the gifts of the Holy Spirit)
6. and of resurrection of the dead,  
7. and of eternal judgment.  (3)  And this will we do, if God permit.

True repentance preachers may sometimes give much demanding repentance doctrine
We have to pay attention to more Bible verses which explain God's doctrine and salvation, not because we are perfect or we like to create many legalistic, rational, and unnecessary demanding rules for the people; but because there are many different type of people and sinners in the world. Some of the people may need to see things differently before they can see the need to repent and believe God. Many of us may have misunderstood John the Baptist as a 'fire and brimstone' preacher who was legalistic and angry at the people because of his much demanding repentance message and condemnation against the Pharisees. However, I would think that John the Baptist was one of the meekest and greatest preachers on earth who had the most compassion and love for the sinners; he preached true repentance, and risking his own life, he preached it boldly with the perfect wisdom of God:

• Mat 3:7 KJV  But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? ...
•  Luk 3:2-15 KJV  Annas and Caiaphas being the high priests, the word of God came unto John the son of Zacharias in the wilderness.  (3)  And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins;  ..  (6)  And all flesh shall see the salvation of God.  (7)  Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?  (8)  Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.  .. (10)  And the people asked him, saying, What shall we do then?  (11)  He answereth and saith unto them, He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none; and he that hath meat, let him do likewise.  (12)  Then came also publicans to be baptized, and said unto him, Master, what shall we do? (13)  And he said unto them, Exact no more than that which is appointed you.  (14)  And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages.  (15)  And as the people were in expectation, and all men mused in their hearts of John, whether he were the Christ, or not;

Obviously, John the Baptist had given different versions of repentance to different people. But can we just stick to his first version of repentance in (v11), tell everyone to give away their coats, and conclude that repentance to turn from cheating others in (v13) or repentance to stop violence in (v14) is no more valid for us ? No, of course not. To the Pharisees and many people today, the Lord's calling to repentance would still be valid  for them. It is not just a call for them to give away their coats, but to help the less privilege, the less wealthy, the less intelligent, and the less honourable. 
Obviously, preacher who always deny the Lord's calling and twist it to their own advantage and teach it deceitfully to hide or suppress their sin conscience to repent could be on the road to perdition:

• 2Th 2:1-17 KJV  Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,  (2)  That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.  (3)  Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;  (4)  Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.  (5)  Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?  (6)  And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.  (7)  For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.  (8)  And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:  (9)  Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,  (10)  And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.  (11)  And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:  (12)  That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.  (13)  But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:  (14)  Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.  (15)  Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.  (16)  Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,  (17)  Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.

The gospel which blocks all others from speaking may not be the true gospel 
They will argue, "You are very unreasonable. You have not experienced spam comments from your critics and opponents yet. So, you would never understand our situation. There are too many people who are jealous of our grace message. Hence, they would spam our websites beyond 'recognition', to release their frustration and anger on our websites. You would find that only the law believers or law Pharisees would do such despicable things. But you would never find the grace people who would do such things on your websites. Hence, I don't find any wrong to delete the spam messages and make good what we have posted for the convenience of our grace readers .."
I will tell them, Firstly, of course, we can block spam and those who spam; but that does not mean that we should block all others or silent everyone who disagrees with us.
Secondly, if I do not receive much criticism or many comments, it does not mean that I have no critic or opponent. I do not receive much criticism because I would try to answer every genuine criticism and help them to see the full picture or true picture. Hence, those who just want to spam or criticise unreasonably would think twice before they would spam. However, I would never need to block or erase genuine comment or reasonable criticism even if they may appear to be negative to me. It is because I believe that all of us including our readers can learn from our critics and opponents. We don't have to 'erase' them, 'terminate' them, or 'delete' them away. We can learn from our critics because we can see the full picture with their negative comments as long as they do not spam.
Similarly if God would want us to read His words, He would not 'erase' all the false prophets or false doctrines too. God would not block all their comments or criticism just because they may appear to be negative against His words. As long as the false preachers do not 'spam' (or corrupt) His gospel, His New Covenant, or the Bible, God will not shut their mouths too. God will still allow them to speak, argue, and even say negative comments against His principles and commandments. However, only those who belong to Him will see the full picture and the true picture in the last days. The true believers will hear, know, meditate, keep, compare, discern, and do His words:

• Mat 11:10-26 KJV  .. (13)  For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.  (14)  And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.  (15)  He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.  (16)  But whereunto shall I liken this generation? It is like unto children sitting in the markets, and calling unto their fellows,  (17)  And saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned unto you, and ye have not lamented.  (18)  For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil.  (19)  The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.  (20)  Then began he to upbraid the cities wherein most of his mighty works were done, because they repented not:  (21)  Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.  (22)  But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment, than for you.  (23)  And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.  (24)  But I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee.  (25)  At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.  (26)  Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.
• Mat 13:12-19 KJV  For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.  (13)  Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.  (14)  And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:  (15)  For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.  (16)  But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.  (17)  For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.  (18)  Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.  (19)  When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side ...

The principles of eternal judgement or the doctrine of Christ can never be the ministry of condemnation or old testament teaching
They will argue, "But eternal judgement is a ministry of condemnation. It may have certain glory, but the glory is greater for the ministry of grace and righteousness.."
I will tell them, Please don't quote the Bible out of its context. Please read your Bible again:

• 2Co 3:6-14 KJV  Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.  (7)  But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:  (8)  How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?  (9)  For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.  (10)  For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.  (11)  For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.  (12)  Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:  (13)  And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:  (14)  But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.

The ministry of condemnation is the ministry of the Old Covenant, not the principles of the doctrine of Christ. The ministry of grace and righteousness is the ministry of the New Covenant. Hence, the ministry of grace and righteousness would be taught in the principles of the doctrine of Christ. It is probably taught as the the principle or foundation of repentance from dead works and sins.
Hence, something would be very wrong if you just keep preaching that all the principles of the doctrine of Christ (including the doctrine of repentance, of faith, and of eternal judgement) are Old Testament doctrine and that they should be passed away. Obviously, you have misinterpreted Heb 6:1-2 again. When Paul said,  Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, he did not say that they were passed away. Instead, Paul told us that we may move on or leave them, only if we are sure that we have the good foundation of repentance, of faith, of the doctrine of baptisms, of .. (if God permit). 

• Heb 6:1-3 KJV  Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,  (2)  Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.  (3)  And this will we do, if God permit.     

Yes, Paul would not wish to keep teaching all these principles over and over again. However, if the believers were still ignorant about the principles, Paul would never tell them to leave them and learn some other things.

• Act 24:24-25 KJV  And after certain days, when Felix came with his wife Drusilla, which was a Jewess, he sent for Paul, and heard him concerning the faith in Christ.  (25)  And as he reasoned of righteousness, temperance, and judgment to come, Felix trembled, and answered, Go thy way for this time; when I have a convenient season, I will call for thee. (Are you surprised that Paul being a grace preacher would preach eternal judgement to the extend of making Felix trembled ?)

     
 
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